accelerating from a dead stop

[Bonburner]

Hmm, well there are two spots where you get the most torque .. from 2-3k and 5-7k.
It's pretty important to stay in that zone if you ask me .. if you're looking to pull away quickly without going crazy RPMs then stay at 2-3k.
If you're willing to hit 5-7k be my guest.

Also when I shift it doesn't take long to shift, its just during the Neutral (when out of a gear) I keep a light pressure on the gas so I can keep the RPM from dipping by any really measurable means.
Once I'm about to shift into the gear I let off that pressure temporarily and immediately apply gas as I let off the clutch

[matt30]

Originally Posted by Bonburner

I personally don't suggest shifting much past 3k.
I've been driving around a bit and I can feel the torque dip so I constantly shift at 3k.
Regarding when I engage I can't really say .. maybe consistently around 1.8k, I never checked.
I personally don't find too much engine speed drop because I never Fully let off the gas until the shifter is right about to go into the 'socket'.
That's when I do a soft reversed blip where I let off the gas and clutch and then get on the gas immediately .. may not be the best way but for some reason I find myself doing this.

Originally Posted by KRAZYK

Bonburner - I think you are talking about just smooth "common" shifting correct? Not trying to smoke anyone just get up to speed from a red light.

Even if he is talking about the smoothest way to make a shift it still doen't make any sense.

He doesn't take his foot off the gas until he's moving the shifter into the next gear? What? Powershifting is the least smooth way to do it. What the fuck is a reverse blip?

I'm almost sure he was talking about the fastest way to accerate the car. Why else would he mention a torque spike at 3k RPM?

[matt30]

Originally Posted by Bonburner

Hmm, well there are two spots where you get the most torque .. from 2-3k and 5-7k.
It's pretty important to stay in that zone if you ask me .. if you're looking to pull away quickly without going crazy RPMs then stay at 2-3k.
If you're willing to hit 5-7k be my guest.

Also when I shift it doesn't take long to shift, its just during the Neutral (when out of a gear) I keep a light pressure on the gas so I can keep the RPM from dipping by any really measurable means.
Once I'm about to shift into the gear I let off that pressure temporarily and immediately apply gas as I let off the clutch

The torque zones are irrelevant.

Shifting at 1k will always be slower than shifting at 2k, which is slower than 3k, which is lower than 4k, which is slower than 5k, which is slower than redline. Period.

Keeping your foot on the gas durring the shift is a great way to kill your clutch and great for nothing else.

[KRAZYK]

^^^

I dont know.. I mean at the end of the day the OP will learn how to drive his MT better and wont even THINK about how to launch off the line faster.. he'll just DO it.

[20valvewynn83]

Hahahahaha the comments are killing me on this post

[Bonburner]

I just shift to keep myself at the lower torque ranges.
I made up that reverse blip terminology because I let off the gas for a very short period.
I reduce the pressure on my gas peddle when I hit the clutch to shift up but I don't completely release it.
Are you telling me that this is killing my clutch?

[FRiSson]

Originally Posted by nix

And lose.

I'd rather sit down and have a beer with an FR-S driver than an M3 driver.

[motofan]

Originally Posted by jarviz

We all know that this car is lacking a bit of torque, especially at the lower rpm ranges. I especially noticed it today when I pulled up behind an M3 this morning (good thing I didn't pull up next to it haha). As the light turn green, I wanted to see if I can keep up with it without flooring the pedal - definitely not as I watched him take off in front of me, so I concentrated on just staying ahead of the civics and corollas next to me - at least that wasn't too bad.

How do you guys normally accelerate and up-shift to keep up with the quicker cars from a dead stop? I normally up-shift to second really quick (less than 10mph) and throttle a little harder in second for a little longer - is this the wrong technique? Is the best way to accelerate, to throttle hard and up-shift at later rpms?

set your rev light to 7400, then upshift only when it flashes!

[frs23]

Originally Posted by FRiSson

I'd rather sit down and have a beer with an FR-S driver than an M3 driver.

M3 driver is likely to have more money to buy more rounds

[cgrey]

Originally Posted by Bonburner

I just shift to keep myself at the lower torque ranges.
I made up that reverse blip terminology because I let off the gas for a very short period.
I reduce the pressure on my gas peddle when I hit the clutch to shift up but I don't completely release it.
Are you telling me that this is killing my clutch?

I own farm in Nigeria worth $10,000,000,000. My father need money to be free from rebels. You send money yes? Then I give you $5,000,000,000.

[Bonburner]

Originally Posted by cgrey

I own farm in Nigeria worth $10,000,000,000. My father need money to be free from rebels. You send money yes? Then I give you $5,000,000,000.

I couldn't give less of a damn thanks for adding something worthwhile to the thread.

[YukiHachiRoku]

[cgrey]

Originally Posted by Bonburner

I couldn't give less of a damn thanks for adding something worthwhile to the thread.

About as worthwhile as your advice even after others attempted to correct you.

Hey, it was worth a shot.

Keep on truckin!

[Bonburner]

Originally Posted by cgrey

About as worthwhile as your advice even after others attempted to correct you.

Hey, it was worth a shot.

Keep on truckin!

they haven't corrected, they just claimed its wrong - no correction as to "how it should be done"