Here's a little Scion Concept Car teaser video!

[Macavely]

Originally Posted by 4agze

Wow so its a offically scion ok ok well i just need to know how it drives

This might be the best post on here so far...

at the end of the day that is all that matters...

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

These dudes are retarded. They think Scion is made for 12yr olds, when the freaking mean demographic that buys them is mid 30's.

Dumb down, no options version....wow, really. Tells me these cats have no idea what Scion offers.

Based on this article back in 06, their target age demographic was 8-15 yr old! It did mention the median age was 31 but unless I'm blind, majority of the Scions I see around here are teenagers to mid 20 yr old young adults.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/14/bu...ia/14adco.html

IN April, Toyota quietly began an unusual virtual promotion of its small, boxy Scion: it paid for the car's product placement in Whyville.net, an online interactive community populated almost entirely by 8- to 15-year-olds.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by RRnold

.... but unless I'm blind, majority of the Scions I see around here are teenagers to mid 20 yr old young adults.

Same for me. I swear that the youngest Scion driver I have seen on the road or in a parking lot has been mid-20's. I have never seen anyone in their 30s or 40s drive a Scion. But maybe small sample size on my part.

[Macavely]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Same for me. I swear that the youngest Scion driver I have seen on the road or in a parking lot has been mid-20's. I have never seen anyone in their 30s or 40s drive a Scion. But maybe small sample size on my part.

The majority of Scion owners I know are 25-50.. more in the mid 30's ... but I go to a lot of Scion Shows and events..

[4agze]

Originally Posted by Macavely

This might be the best post on here so far...

at the end of the day that is all that matters...

but I been saying this ever since the debate about toyota and scion badge " I'm on the driving experience not the name"

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ing+experience

[EJ20]

Well, I still don't get it? Why everyone hate scion? I mean if it comes with the right dimentions, low weight, power, handling, FR layout,,,,,ect then why bother with what company make it??
Where I live everyone HATE my cars (my 86 before, and now my NA8 and my GD) as NO one here like small cars. They like'em big and heavy! Even my family and even my gf hate my cars and always tell me to get a big suv? Yet I still don't care about image as long as I enjoy driving these little cars once I turn the ignetion ON

As I said before, Scion or not just make the damn thing!

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Macavely

The majority of Scion owners I know are 25-50.. more in the mid 30's ... but I go to a lot of Scion Shows and events..

Seriously you have 40 and 50 year olds showing up to Scion shows and events with their Scions? Wow!

[Exage]

This is going to make or break Scion. Toyota has been trying to get this company off the ground for a couple of years. The FT would have been better at the launch of the company rather than now, but alas.

I'm interested to see how this will play out seeing as how vary few people take Scion as a serious company, including some the enthusiasts on this forum.

Yes it is a shame it isn't heading to North America under the Toyota brand. However if you were seriously surprised by Toyotas' decision to sell the FT under the Scion name then clearly you don't know the companies or their targets very well. More and more signs were being pointed to Scion rather than Toyota as they have drawn car out.

Am I disappointed? Not really. Perhaps it was time for Toyota to toss the defibrillator and throw some high voltage lines on Scion. If the FT performs as well as I think it's going to I'll gladly represent one under the Scion badge.

[Macavely]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Seriously you have 40 and 50 year olds showing up to Scion shows and events with their Scions? Wow!

yes.... once you are a car person you will always be a car person.... at the end of the day a car is a car .. anyone that doesn't understand that has a lot to learn.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Macavely

yes.... once you are a car person you will always be a car person.... at the end of the day a car is a car .. anyone that doesn't understand that has a lot to learn.

Sure but a car person/car enthusiast ≠ a person looking at buying a Scion at that age point of 40-50s. Sure a Miata owner, or a Porsche owner, or a Ferrari owner, or a BMW M3 owner...etc. But a car enthusiast would never look towards a Scion. The Scions I have driven are the most uninspiring, unfun, not enjoyable, bland cars I have experienced. Not sure why a 40-50 year old who enjoys cars would even look in their direction.

Not sure what you mean by: "once you are a car person you will always be a car person" and then your following sentence of "at the end of the day a car is a car." So is a car a car? Or is a car something meant to be enjoyed and appreciated for more than just a typical car getting you to work and back home?

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Same for me. I swear that the youngest Scion driver I have seen on the road or in a parking lot has been mid-20's. I have never seen anyone in their 30s or 40s drive a Scion. But maybe small sample size on my part.

My boss's husband used to drive tC (prob around mid 40's)... til got into huge wreck (it wasn't his fault).

[86er]

REALLY? Really? So Confused Is Obviously Nurotic (SCION)
This has everything to do with "badging". It's now about weak investment into a test product that Toyota is NOT willing to "badge" the car with their logo.

[Macavely]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Sure but a car person/car enthusiast ≠ a person looking at buying a Scion at that age point of 40-50s. Sure a Miata owner, or a Porsche owner, or a Ferrari owner, or a BMW M3 owner...etc. But a car enthusiast would never look towards a Scion. The Scions I have driven are the most uninspiring, unfun, not enjoyable, bland cars I have experienced. Not sure why a 40-50 year old who enjoys cars would even look in their direction.

Not sure what you mean by: "once you are a car person you will always be a car person" and then your following sentence of "at the end of the day a car is a car." So is a car a car? Or is a car something meant to be enjoyed and appreciated for more than just a typical car getting you to work and back home?

I car is a car.. it is what you make of it.. I have owned car in the 60K price range all the way down to the 18k price range.. all of them I have found enjoyment in driving them. Why because I do not settle for what a car can do out of the factory. Something can always be improved.

And a lot of the 40 - 50 year olds that drive scions do it because these are fun cars to drive. (not saying this is you) but some people are more into what car they are in, then enjoying the car that they are driving .. and that normal comes from people that haven't had that much driving time with a wide range of cars.

[Exage]

Originally Posted by Macavely

yes.... once you are a car person you will always be a car person.... at the end of the day a car is a car .. anyone that doesn't understand that has a lot to learn.

+1

I don't think people understand what it's like to own a car universally HATED by the community, for no more than childish and almost irrelevant reasons.

Simply put: A true car enthusiast will actually find and praise a cars' attributes instead of ragging on it's faults.