What you HATE the most on your FR-S/BRZ/GT86/FT86?

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Why does that type of clutch make that sound?

Not sure. Everything should be under load from the springs with it released.

[Overdrive]

For me the hate has to go to the fuel pump chirps, the random cabin rattles that seem to be impossible to track down, and the 3rd brake light protruding into my rear view. That said, they're all minor things, and so I'd say "hate" would be a strong word for them. Still love driving it every day.

[JesseG]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

This conversation made me curious so I went out last night and made sure I was on the most inclined section of my driveway and tried the door. Didn't move at all. They obviously changed something.

I can justify getting a new 86/BRZ because of that alone


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[JesseG]

Originally Posted by Overdrive

For me the hate has to go to the fuel pump chirps, the random cabin rattles that seem to be impossible to track down, and the 3rd brake light protruding into my rear view. That said, they're all minor things, and so I'd say "hate" would be a strong word for them. Still love driving it every day.

I haven’t ever thought about the third brake light blocking visibility, until now. Thanks guys! But seriously, the visibility is pretty good out of the twins despite being a small and flat car. There is just that small blind spot which is easy enough to do a quick head turn to avoid. That just made me think it would be nice to have blind spot monitoring on the 2nd gen.


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[soundman98]

Originally Posted by JesseG

I sometimes wonder what people on the outside think of our strange little tractor sounding cars. Add in the crickets and the gear change clicks and you’ve got quite a symphony going on. Lol
The teachers at my daughter’s school pickup/ drop off line don’t know what to make of it. And a teacher shut the door by pushing the window. My car OCD kicked in big time. Even my daughter was like “Dad I could tell you didn’t like that”


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my previous 2 vehicles were convertibles. i've always had frameless door windows. nothing irritates me more than someone using the glass to close the door. i may or may not have rubbed one specific persons nose in their greasy grimy fingerprints that were left on the glass from doing that. the court records were sealed.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Overdrive

For me the hate has to go to the fuel pump chirps, the random cabin rattles that seem to be impossible to track down, and the 3rd brake light protruding into my rear view. That said, they're all minor things, and so I'd say "hate" would be a strong word for them. Still love driving it every day.

third brake light is a simple mod to move up to the top.

[JesseG]

Originally Posted by soundman98

my previous 2 vehicles were convertibles. i've always had frameless door windows. nothing irritates me more than someone using the glass to close the door. i may or may not have rubbed one specific persons nose in their greasy grimy fingerprints that were left on the glass from doing that. the court records were sealed.

It’s one of my biggest car pet peeves. If there isn’t a fu**ing door frame don’t close the door by its window! I’ve had several cars with frameless doors also. It wasn’t too bad with my WRX because the doors were so light. My Camaro had heavy a$$ doors and I would cringe every time I would see someone close an F Body door by its window. If you want to send your car OCD into hyperdrive, watch an episode of Knight Rider, he closes the door with the window every damn time.


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[LimitedSlip]

Originally Posted by Overdrive

. . . the 3rd brake light protruding into my rear view.

Every time someone mentions this the "First Rule of Italian Driving" comes to mind:

[alex87f]

Originally Posted by beltax90

Have a DIY on that?

[Decep]

Worst things about the car for a daily driver are definitely the door checks and for those of us without backup cameras, rear visibility at night is terrible for parallel parking. reverse lights barely light anything up due to how low they are.

[Bonburner]

Originally Posted by Decep

Worst things about the car for a daily driver are definitely the door checks and for those of us without backup cameras, rear visibility at night is terrible for parallel parking. reverse lights barely light anything up due to how low they are.

Replace the reverse lights with some brighter LEDs and/or install a back up camera

[Spankopotomous]

I hate the road noise and wish for a more comfortable ride.

Back in February 19 I got my stock asphalt manual 13 FR-S with 34k miles. I drive roughly 1.3k L.A. traffic highway miles a month and I hate the road noise/ride quality. Upgrading from stock tires to 225/45/17 MPS4's improved grip immensely but did nothing to quiet road noise. Shouting to passengers or listening to the stock radio between 40-50 volume on the highway seems excessive.

I love the sports car weight and handling, it feels like riding a guided missile barreling down the 110. Now the car is approaching 60k/a major service interval. I can't help to imagine that some dynamat, sound deadening, lightweight 17x9+35's, a sound tube delete, or new bushings/window seals may be in order.

These are over exaggerations but I really believe the car can be improved to a true GT.

Has anyone built and achieved a comfortable "GT" build?

[Bonburner]

Originally Posted by Spankopotomous

I hate the road noise and wish for a more comfortable ride.

Back in February 19 I got my stock asphalt manual 13 FR-S with 34k miles. I drive roughly 1.3k L.A. traffic highway miles a month and I hate the road noise/ride quality. Upgrading from stock tires to 225/45/17 MPS4's improved grip immensely but did nothing to quiet road noise. Shouting to passengers or listening to the stock radio between 40-50 volume on the highway seems excessive.

I love the sports car weight and handling, it feels like riding a guided missile barreling down the 110. Now the car is approaching 60k/a major service interval. I can't help to imagine that some dynamat, sound deadening, lightweight 17x9+35's, a sound tube delete, or new bushings/window seals may be in order.

These are over exaggerations but I really believe the car can be improved to a true GT.

Has anyone built and achieved a comfortable "GT" build?

Google is your friend

That being said, the second page of that thread the guy says:

Originally Posted by nalc

It's probably not Lexus LS quiet. The real limiting factor at this point is the frameless windows. Road and engine noise are down significantly, but there's still some wind noise, and there's not much I can do about it.

I measured it around 85 dB with the app on my old phone at 65mph on the highway, and 78 dB after the sound deadening. I don't know how accurate that app is, so the numbers are probably off (I've already been challenged that there's no way the BRZ reaches 85 dB at that speed), but the 7 dB reduction is probably about accurate. Remember, it's a logarithmic scale, so 10 dB = 10 x as loud.

As a better example, I took someone for a ride who did not know that I had done any sound deadening, and he remarked that he was surprised how quiet it was. I'd certainly be up for doing an actual comparison with an accurate SPL meter, perhaps at a meet or some other event where we could compare my car to a stock car at the same speed on the same road.

As for the headliner, there is nothing securing the Thinsulate. It's just sandwiched between the headliner (which is actually quite stiff) and the roof. One nice thing about treating the headliner is that you lose the "rain drops on a tin roof" sound when it rains. Raindrops make practically no noise on the roof now.

I'll post a more detailed write up on it once I have a chance (maybe tonight), but for now the pics are available in the imgur album in the first post.

I paid about $600 for all the materials. In retrospect, my amount of CLD was a bit low (I used 45 and could likely have found room for another 5 without too much trouble), my amount of CCF was too high (I only used half of what I ordered, since there was already foam below the carpet), and my MLV and Thinsulate were right on the money.

I should also add that if you're doing any JDM interior pieces (like the kneepads or armrest), or if you're installing upgraded speakers, do them at the same time. Taking all these panels off makes those upgrades very fast and easy.

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by Spankopotomous

I hate the road noise and wish for a more comfortable ride.

...sound tube delete...

My experience is that the sound tube isn't that loud, but the noise it brings into the cabin are in an especially bothersome frequency (at least for me, making my ears hurt after even a short drive).

I tested this by driving around stock, then plugging the sound tube with the 12V socket cover from the glove box and driving some more. Noise level hasn't changed much, but the noise profile is pretty different. It's free, so give it a try.

Since then I replaced the intake with a Perrin one that deletes the sound tube entirely. Still noisy, especially tire noise on the highway, but barrable for me. I don't commute much, though.