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But in general, I agree. In many ways, we are already there. They will get better and be even more compelling soon.
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I wonder what the smallest sized truck that will be exempted from this will be ? Battery powered trucks are not even close to being as practical as the cars are.
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If I was going to buy one of these, I'd get the Bolt mainly because of the range.
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What’s even funnier is when the world gets a lesson on the difference between climate and weather, yet they still don’t get it or choose to still spout falsehoods as if the explanation never existed.
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Which dinosaurs? There have been five to seven mass extinctions. It would be a shame to cause our own. Saving our planet isn’t about saving the planet for the planet’s sake; it is about keeping it hospitable to human life. Yes, some would rather humans not exist so the planet and its other inhabitants can thrive, and there are the others who could care less what we do because they won’t be around for the end. Those in the middle understand that we are dependent on the health of the planet for our own survival, so it is best we do what we can to live in harmony with the planet. There are many ways we could destroy it or cause a mass extinction. How permanent would the destruction last is a different question. Varying degrees of nuclear holocaust could last decades to thousands to hundreds of thousands of years. Destruction of the ozone layer would lead to radiation exposure, DNA damage, death of most species, famine, etc. Run away greenhouse gases would lead to super heating of the planet like it did on Venus, so the planet would become inhospitable to all life except bacteria. There are others. Bad argument. I can think of many things that are mandated, forced, required, has laws against, etc for which something or some outcome is better than what others would choose or do, especially initially. People don’t always choose what is good for them.
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The EV1 had 55-105 miles of range, depending on the battery, and the Spark EV has 85. The EV1 was only available for a lease of $300-575 depending on state rebates and such things, and they were losing money on each car because the real cost was much higher, and this was in the late 90’s. A $575 payment is around $930 today. By some estimates, the car should have been leased closer to a $70-100k value instead of a $34k value...in the late 90’s. The EV1 was the Tesla Model S of its day with a Model S price tag. Who knows how much progress GM could have made if they had continued investing for another 20 years. The EV1 and the Spark are an example of performance inflation where what once was expensive is cheap. Part of that is made possible by what we call advancement.
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The Spark EV was really more a "see we can do that do" response to Nissan and others building similar cars. The Bolt is really a much better successor to the EV1.
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Humanity likes to act like it's all important, that the world revolves around us, and that things we see in our lifetimes are unprecedented. They are not.
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Technically the planet is 4.5 billion years old
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On the flip side of that (and ignoring the cost of deployment) solar is much better than existing Hydro. I've seen estimates that all the power generated in Florida by hydro could be generated using a solar array the size of Central Park (100 acres). The dammed acreage to generate the power is is 26,520 ha (65,500 acres) I guess the goal is figuring out which has the lesser downsides.
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The real issue is not power generation. The fundamental, thorny, unpleasant topic that few people like to talk about is people. Over-population is the underlying cause of most of the problems facing the world today. Yes, there's plenty of room to pack in more people if you want to stack them up like cordwood and live Hong-Kong style (I personally don't). But there's a limit to both natural resources, and to the planet's capacity to absorb our wastes and the impact of our being here. Most processes can be made more efficient and less wasteful. But hoping for 'science' or 'technology' to solve all our problems is wishful thinking. There is a finite amount of fresh water, breathable air, arable soil, and other limited resources that 'science' cannot create more of. Likewise, the planet has a limited capacity to absorb the heat and other waste products people produce. Global warming is but one sign that we are out-stripping the planet's capacity to accommodate so many people. One way or another, human population will ultimately be adjusted. It's up to us whether we do it rationally and in a planned way, or we let nature take it's course and adjust our population for us. |
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