2022 Nissan Z Coupe

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

jesus just go out and buy a used q50 for $20k and weld the rear doors shut and you'll get the same experience

3700-4000lbs, foot greater wheelbase, two feet greater length, no manual transmission, no LSD, no thank you.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

jesus just go out and buy a used q50 for $20k and weld the rear doors shut and you'll get the same experience

Why not just buy a Q60 then?

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Why not just buy a Q60 then?

Too heavy.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Too heavy.

Just strip'er down, and rear seat delete....problem solved

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Too heavy.

In the same trim / drive type it only weighs more primarily because of the larger/wider wheels/tires.

[AnalogMan]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

So, your friend's name is Biff and he lives in 1985?

His name isn't Biff, but many of his 'values' are stuck in the mid 1980's!

[AnalogMan]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Why not just buy a Q60 then?

No manual transmission available in the Q60.

[WildCard600]

bUt ThE aUtOmAtIc HaS a FaStEr LaP tImE At tHe HaMbUrGeR rInG....

[Red-86]

I’m starting to get excited about the reveal now. More so than I was about the Supra, TBH. So manual option confirmed, and the hints about the styling look promising. And did everyone notice, it retains a manual handbrake? Nice! Not something the Supra could manage. Hopefully this means they will keep it as analogue as possible - one of the great strengths of the ‘old’ 370Z is that it is an analogue sportscar in a world of increasingly artificial and detached feeling sportscars (numb electric steering, auto only, adaptive dampers etc).

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by AnalogMan

No manual transmission available in the Q60.

Same with the Q50...

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Red-86

I’m starting to get excited about the reveal now. More so than I was about the Supra, TBH. So manual option confirmed, and the hints about the styling look promising. And did everyone notice, it retains a manual handbrake? Nice! Not something the Supra could manage. Hopefully this means they will keep it as analogue as possible - one of the great strengths of the ‘old’ 370Z is that it is an analogue sportscar in a world of increasingly artificial and detached feeling sportscars (numb electric steering, auto only, adaptive dampers etc).

Would you buy a manual wind window conversion kit if I were to start making them?

[WildCard600]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Would you buy a manual wind window conversion kit if I were to start making them?

Not for my 86 presently, but if you would make a conversion kit for my trans am to replace the clapped out 30+ year old motors that you can only get equally terrible chicom replacements for I couldn't give you my money fast enough.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by AnalogMan

The Cayman case is murkier. On paper a 400Z (or even the 370Z) would seem to be a much better deal than a new Cayman. Similar to superior power and performance, much lower price and maintenance costs, and better reliability. But these days I suspect many Porsche buyers buy them for the name, for the image, for the snob appeal and brag value of being able to say down at the local gym and bar (when it's possible to safely go back to them, pandemic willing) that they drive a "Por-shuh". For those people who value image over price and value, there is no substitute and they would never be happy with a mere pedestrian Nissan over a Porsche.

This is the danger with comparing cars on paper. I know you caveated that statement and I can see how just comparing the specs on paper might lead you to think the only reason to pick the Porsche is the badge, but having owned a 350z and 987.2 Boxster S, there’s no way I’d pick a 350/370z over a 987 or newer Porsche and it has nothing to do with the badge.

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Would you buy a manual wind window conversion kit if I were to start making them?

LOL, probably not, but I leave the windows up most of the time so it wouldn't both me either way. Manual window cranks do save weight though.

The things I like to stay old-school and analogue are the things that directly impact driving feel; steering, shifting, brakes, throttle, suspension etc.