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Old 04-13-2011, 05:37 PM   #71
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There isn't anyone on here that want's a Scion branded Hachi over a Toyota. There are only people who want a Toyota over a Scion, and the others can care less what badge is on it.
Because those that know that history of the Hachi know it should be a Toyota.


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This isn't about my tC, I asked a question, has nothing to do with what I did with my own car.
It is as much as you have a conflict of interest. You own a Scion and think it is a great car. That is great. But not everyone agrees with you on that. I sure don't

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I don't need to compare the factory installed options, I own a Scion remember, I know what it comes with. You made a comment, and imo...perhaps you should compare the standard and factory options offered for cars that are in the same pricing structure as a Scion model.
Actually when my wife and I looked at cars we did. That is why we currently don't have a Scion in the family. Scion is an under performing division. Hopefully Toyota kills it off sooner rather than later. That is why I want the 86 as a Toyota for the eventual death of Scion.
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aaaand im out. no scion for me. to me scion means cheap, low rent interior with lots of hard plastics for low 20k. i may drive well, but just the fact that its a scion means it will be held back to it full potention because of price constraints. oh well...on to the subie version.
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actually the JDM ver of the 300zx came TT in the 2+2 and had a longer production run then it did in the US. Also our prices are way off base for most cars. same goes for hp numbers
austinguy83 comments has been busted.

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aaaand im out. no scion for me. to me scion means cheap, low rent interior with lots of hard plastics for low 20k. i may drive well, but just the fact that its a scion means it will be held back to it full potention because of price constraints. oh well...on to the subie version.
There you go, you're looking at positive side. LOL
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Look, I hate the Scion brand as much as the next guy, but that's only because I don't like any of their cars, and most of the people I meet that drive Scion Tcs are douchebags and bitches, but thats's just an observation.

If this comes out with all the right things, I really don't care what they call it. Here's an example.

Let's say this was 1999, and honda was going to bring out the S2000. In JDM land, it would be called, S2000, in USDM land, they decided to make it an acura and call it, oh IDK, the Acura XXSTIGSXR. Would you think worse of the S2000? How about if they decided to let suzuki bring it over for some reason, and Suzuki calls it the Aveo Plus? Any difference? I didn't think so.

If the car comes out, and it is awesome, a little bit of packaging and option difference is not going to put me off. Also, I read somewhere that Scion dealers are some of the best in the country, but what do I know....

So once again, I say, calm the fuck down people, wait for it to come out, if it's awesome, line up to buy it, after me, and if they call it the Scion stinkbugger, debadge it, or rebadge it and call it the JDM name, or Euro name, or just call it bob. Who cares, I'm a driving/car enthusiast, not a name enthusiast.
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aaaand im out. no scion for me. to me scion means cheap, low rent interior with lots of hard plastics for low 20k. i may drive well, but just the fact that its a scion means it will be held back to it full potention because of price constraints. oh well...on to the subie version.
Did you expect premium leather seats and soft touch everything at this weight and pricepoint? I don't think so....
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Screw this car, they just lost a bunch of sales. Let's all write letters to Toyota, who has a marketing department that isn't worth shit.
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Screw this car, they just lost a bunch of sales. Let's all write letters to Toyota, who has a marketing department that isn't worth shit.
We don't have to though. We have a better alternative car, and it's a Subaru.
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Im raging right now, so DAMN HARD.

BUT.

BUT.

I will give Scion ONE chance - the interior. If the interior is good, nice quality, then fine i will continue my pursuit. HOWEVER, i swear to God if this things interior is cheap like the rest of the lineup, no sorry im gunna wait for the new IS and upgrade after college i dont have the time nor the resources to gut and redo the interior myself.

We dont need premium BMW/Lexus/Mercedes quality leather seats, the Genesis coupe has decent leather anything on that level at minimum is acceptable, but chances of a nice interior feel like they were shot down.
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:47 PM   #79
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I called this one. No matter though, Ive always been into the Subaru counterpart, just looks like there is going to be a lot more subie newbies logging on in the next year.
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:48 PM   #80
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Because those that know that history of the Hachi know it should be a Toyota.
And? You are not the masses, there are just as many people who don't care what it's badged bro.



[QUOTE=tranzformer;3362It is as much as you have a conflict of interest. You own a Scion and think it is a great car. That is great. But not everyone agrees with you on that. I sure don't[/quote]

How does asking you to clarify your statement, have anything to do with my car? The only thing Factory optioned on my tC is the LSD (and I didn't buy it from factory, I bought it years after I've owned the car and took out the trans and shipped it off for PTuning to drop my LSD in it).


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Actually when my wife and I looked at cars we did. That is why we currently don't have a Scion in the family. Scion is an under performing division. Hopefully Toyota kills it off sooner rather than later. That is why I want the 86 as a Toyota for the eventual death of Scion.

Exactly the opposite for me. I compared what we would be getting out of a Base RSX and compared to what I got out of the tC. The tC was WAY more car for the price. So rode home with the tC.
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Look, I hate the Scion brand as much as the next guy, but that's only because I don't like any of their cars, and most of the people I meet that drive Scion Tcs are douchebags and bitches, but thats's just an observation.

If this comes out with all the right things, I really don't care what they call it. Here's an example.

Let's say this was 1999, and honda was going to bring out the S2000. In JDM land, it would be called, S2000, in USDM land, they decided to make it an acura and call it, oh IDK, the Acura XXSTIGSXR. Would you think worse of the S2000? How about if they decided to let suzuki bring it over for some reason, and Suzuki calls it the Aveo Plus? Any difference? I didn't think so.

If the car comes out, and it is awesome, a little bit of packaging and option difference is not going to put me off. Also, I read somewhere that Scion dealers are some of the best in the country, but what do I know....

So once again, I say, calm the fuck down people, wait for it to come out, if it's awesome, line up to buy it, after me, and if they call it the Scion stinkbugger, debadge it, or rebadge it and call it the JDM name, or Euro name, or just call it bob. Who cares, I'm a driving/car enthusiast, not a name enthusiast.
Dude are you trying to equate Acura with Scion????? Seriously?
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Dude are you trying to equate Acura with Scion????? Seriously?
He isnt the point of the story is that it's just a badge. And how it makes no difference in the car.

I am of the same, a badge is a badge the engine and performance are all the same. My only problem is the interior might be compromised now.
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Attention everyone:

Bombard Toyota's Facebook with posts exclaiming how you don't like this decision. Write letters to Toyota USA, Jim Lentz, any of the execs. It's a long shot, but we need to at least let the idiots know they're making a huge mistake, because lord knows when executive egos get in the way, they don't know what harm they cause.

Be constructive, but make the point known: NO SCION, or NO SALES.

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So once again, I say, calm the fuck down people, wait for it to come out, if it's awesome, line up to buy it, after me, and if they call it the Scion stinkbugger, debadge it, or rebadge it and call it the JDM name, or Euro name, or just call it bob. Who cares, I'm a driving/car enthusiast, not a name enthusiast.


VERY WELL PUT! you ppl need to call down lol
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