FRS BRZ STOCK UNTOUCHED MOTOR, someone found sealent in their oil pick up mesh! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

1234eher · 07-03-2020, 01:20 AM

Wanted your opinions on something that I stumbled upon while doing research on preventative maintenance.

Apparently sealant was found on the mesh of the pickup tube from a 2014 frs on its stock untouched motor......

Here's the link to a youtube video if you guys wanted to take a look.

Now, this shit got me paranoid...... I'm now contemplating doing an oil pressure test and even dropping my oil pan during my next oil change......

What do you guys think about this? Any other suggestions for preventative maintenance? I already do my oil changes every 5k km

Just how many other cases are there, that we arent aware of.... could this lead to people getting rod knock? something as simple as this?

soundman98 · 07-03-2020, 02:16 AM

Don't drink pop either:
https://www.beveragedaily.com/Articl...epsiCo-settles

Point is, there's risk everywhere. When does one stop worrying and just enjoy living?

DarkPira7e · 07-03-2020, 07:35 AM

The engine was open at some point ( during initial assembly) and there was too much sealant applied. The overhang ends up in the pickup screen. Unfortunate, but this happens.

ToySub1946 · 07-03-2020, 08:10 AM

I see two problems. You are supposed to be changing oil and filter about every 12,000 km.
You are doing so too often, which will wear out the threads of the oil drain plug AND waste lots of money.

The guy in the video has the steering wheel on the wrong side of the car. Don't trust those people.

Stop worrying and simply enjoy your car...

Grab a two-four and chill is another option.

radroach · 07-03-2020, 09:53 AM

This happened to a run of engines it seems early/mid production. There were a few engine failures from it.

I am surprised they didn't issue a recall on it though. At least to bring in the cars and check the oil pans. But I guess that would have open up a whole can of worms for engine replacements.

alphasaur · 07-03-2020, 10:32 AM

This is one of the things I'd prefer to not think about, like how we have an orange man that can't read as POTUS.

Dadhawk · 07-03-2020, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radroach

I am surprised they didn't issue a recall on it though. At least to bring in the cars and check the oil pans. But I guess that would have open up a whole can of worms for engine replacements.

Probably not enough failures reported, and the cost/benefit analysis wasn't there. My guess was they calculated it was cheaper to replace failed engines than address every one that had a small amount of sealant in the screen.

1234eher · 07-03-2020, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Probably not enough failures reported, and the cost/benefit analysis wasn't there. My guess was they calculated it was cheaper to replace failed engines than address every one that had a small amount of sealant in the screen.

Is it worth dropping off the oil pan? Could this be an explanation of all the people whom has never had the engine apart experience rod knock?

1234eher · 07-03-2020, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98

Don't drink pop either:
https://www.beveragedaily.com/Articl...epsiCo-settles

Point is, there's risk everywhere. When does one stop worrying and just enjoy living?

Right, but my main concern is if this can be done as preventative maintenance, and a possible explanation for alot of blown stock motors that are well taken care of.

Or if this is even harmful at all? I'd imagine the oil filter catch these debris but then again it could clog up channels leading to it

soundman98 · 07-03-2020, 02:13 PM

The other side of the risk is if you drop the pan to gain access to the pickup, the pan must be resealed to the block after you're done. And poor application of the sealant there could result in the same condition.

Really, it's a horrific design to not put a manufactured gasket there...

NoHaveMSG · 07-03-2020, 03:10 PM

The way these engines are sealed I would not be surprised if there is a few small strands in every engine at least for a while. That amount I would not be concerned with, it's not enough to block the pickup in a significant way, and it's not like the oil pump couldn't chew that up.

1234eher · 07-03-2020, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98

The other side of the risk is if you drop the pan to gain access to the pickup, the pan must be resealed to the block after you're done. And poor application of the sealant there could result in the same condition.

Really, it's a horrific design to not put a manufactured gasket there...

That is possible as well, is it worth the look though

1234eher · 07-03-2020, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

The way these engines are sealed I would not be surprised if there is a few small strands in every engine at least for a while. That amount I would not be concerned with, it's not enough to block the pickup in a significant way, and it's not like the oil pump couldn't chew that up.

The strands should be caught in the filter, but I'm worried about it causing damage on its way up there, clogging channels or damaging oil pump.

How could this even happen from the factory smh

Grady · 07-04-2020, 01:21 AM

OMG! That is what the screen and oil filter are for. That guy probably worries if the sun is gong to come up tomorrow.

07-03-2020, 01:20 AM	#1
1234eher Member Join Date: May 2020 Drives: 2014 FRS Location: ON Posts: 29 Thanks: 8 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FRS BRZ STOCK UNTOUCHED MOTOR, someone found sealent in their oil pick up mesh! Wanted your opinions on something that I stumbled upon while doing research on preventative maintenance. Apparently sealant was found on the mesh of the pickup tube from a 2014 frs on its stock untouched motor...... Here's the link to a youtube video if you guys wanted to take a look. Now, this shit got me paranoid...... I'm now contemplating doing an oil pressure test and even dropping my oil pan during my next oil change...... What do you guys think about this? Any other suggestions for preventative maintenance? I already do my oil changes every 5k km Just how many other cases are there, that we arent aware of.... could this lead to people getting rod knock? something as simple as this?

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radroach Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: car Location: usa Posts: 2,162 Thanks: 1,028 Thanked 867 Times in 530 Posts Mentioned: 35 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	This happened to a run of engines it seems early/mid production. There were a few engine failures from it. I am surprised they didn't issue a recall on it though. At least to bring in the cars and check the oil pans. But I guess that would have open up a whole can of worms for engine replacements.

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