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Old 06-01-2020, 07:38 PM   #1
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Suspension recommendation around the $2k mark

Hi All,

Another post haha but aside from the wheels and tires which I've picked out the next step for me is Coilovers. Wondering what recommendations some people have around the $2k range

I'm mainly going for street use and autocross eventually, but I want a bit more of a stiffer ride than the Stock PP. I do also plan on lowering the car about an inch or so on 18x8.5 wheels

Some of the recommendations and systems I've looked at:

Ohlins SUU MP22
Fortune Auto 500 series (6k front and 7k rear spring rate)
Cusco Kouki Coilovers Street Zero A
Bilstein B16 PSS
ST Suspension XTA Height, Rebound Adjustable Coilover Kit w/Top Mounts
MCA (but do they ship to the US??)

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Suspension recommendation around the $2k mark

Might want to add:

MCS (Motion Control Suspension)
RCE (RaceComp Engineering)
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:27 AM   #3
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I don't know how many people are in NorthCal but has anyone had experience with Annex Suspension Group? They seem to be quite popular with the 86 Drive Challenge

https://annexsuspension.com/collecti...13891543138367
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I don't know how many people are in NorthCal but has anyone had experience with Annex Suspension Group? They seem to be quite popular with the 86 Drive Challenge

https://annexsuspension.com/collecti...13891543138367
There is a thread about it on here.
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I don't know how many people are in NorthCal but has anyone had experience with Annex Suspension Group? They seem to be quite popular with the 86 Drive Challenge

https://annexsuspension.com/collecti...13891543138367
Haven't tried myself, but I've only heard very few, but good reviews. They do look they part. Dont like them? Sell it to me for hlf price after haha jk, okay not really kidding lol
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What kind of tires do you use and what size?

There are a couple good options under $2k but I would recommend budgeting for set up and a few supporting mods.

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Essentially, forget what you have read on the internet and call Counterspace Garage, and call Racecomp Engineering. Talk to them over the phone, or start an email chain with them and ask questions and get a feel for what systems they say is right for you, spring rates, ride height etc, and price. they are not just salesmen, if you ask them a question about tires on here, they will answer, and they dont even sell tires.

i used to take down trees so i like to use this example: dont decide which tree company you want to come take down all your trees over the internet. I encourage people to get a minimum of 2 estimated from different tree companies (despite being partial to the one i work at). It is very likely there will be huge discrepancies in price to achieve the same end result.
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For OP usage, coilovers are not strictly necessary.

I recently went to Bilstein B8s (B6s would also work) with Swift Spec R springs. Pretty great on the street, quite a bit stiffer than stock at 4.4 kg/mm front, 5.3 kg/mm rear, car is ~1.25" lower than stock. I'm also running Raceseng camber plates, which I had to have 6mm spring spacers machined for the fronts to prevent the front from being too low. Not necessary if you run factory strut isolators, or perhaps other camber plates...

Anyway this was a tremendous improvement for me vs. previous setup with Swift BRZ Sport springs with stock PP Sachs dampers and Raceseng plates. That setup had about zero bump travel up front Actually worked OK at the track but on the street it was murder... The Bilsteins have WAY more bump travel

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For OP usage, coilovers are not strictly necessary.

I recently went to Bilstein B8s (B6s would also work) with Swift Spec R springs. Pretty great on the street, quite a bit stiffer than stock at 4.4 kg/mm front, 5.3 kg/mm rear, car is ~1.25" lower than stock. I'm also running Raceseng camber plates, which I had to have 6mm spring spacers machined for the fronts to prevent the front from being too low. Not necessary if you run factory strut isolators, or perhaps other camber plates...

Anyway this was a tremendous improvement for me vs. previous setup with Swift BRZ Sport springs with stock PP Sachs dampers and Raceseng plates. That setup had about zero bump travel up front Actually worked OK at the track but on the street it was murder... The Bilsteins have WAY more bump travel

Not OP, but what made you choose Swift Spec R springs versus lets say, RCE Tarmacs or Yellows? Ive been really eyeing the Bilstein B6/B8's, and have been comparing spring combinations for a DD/Weekend warrior setup
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What kind of tires do you use and what size?

There are a couple good options under $2k but I would recommend budgeting for set up and a few supporting mods.

- Andrew
I plan on using the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S in a 235/40/R18 in a 18x8.5 wheel size
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Not OP, but what made you choose Swift Spec R springs versus lets say, RCE Tarmacs or Yellows? Ive been really eyeing the Bilstein B6/B8's, and have been comparing spring combinations for a DD/Weekend warrior setup
RCE options look really good as well. The lowering is a bit more reasonable for real-world.
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OP, in my research, I am leaning towards RCE yellows and B6 for DD and spirited runs. I will not be autox or tracking it. If I was, I would consider coil overs from the various names mentioned above. I still think about coilovers, but some of my recent runs on some bumpy country roads with the stock suspension makes me think twice.
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Unless you're running super sticky tires, check out the CSG spec Flex A. It's ~2x stiffer than stock in terms of spring rate, but actually ride smoother than stock. It's also got quite a few championship winning cars running them, so the pedigree is there.
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