(GR86) Second Generation FR-S/BRZ insider info...

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by mrg666

3500 rpm at 70 mph is unacceptable to me. My FR-S AT does 2250 rpm at 70mph. Gas consumption is about 35 mpg at 70 mph (with JRSC) if I set the cruise control.

6 speed manual with 4.3 gears is 3250rpm at 70 mph (3100rpm with 4.1 gears). I get 33mpg highway with the 4.3 gears.

[ZDan]

FWIW, BRZ mpg by year data from fuelly.com:
'13: 27.3
'14: 26.7
'15: 26.9
'16: 25.4
'17: 26.0
'18: 25.6
'19: 26.0
'20: 25.3

[mrg666]

Originally Posted by ZDan

6 speed manual with 4.3 gears is 3250rpm at 70 mph (3100rpm with 4.1 gears). I get 33mpg highway with the 4.3 gears.

I probably would listen the whistle of recirculation valve (which is an annoying sound) if I cruise 70 mph above 3000 rpm (5th gear, maybe 4) since supercharger is overspinning and telling me to upshift. It is a totally different driving experience with AT gear ratios. Good to keep in mind since I really want to get a second 86 AT before it disappears from the show rooms. This car is a deal of century for the price - at least to me.

[alone1i]

Finished reading all these 39 pages of this thread. A question just came in my mind, at this present time, how is the chances to not see a new 2nd gen 86/BRZ?

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by alone1i

Finished reading all these 39 pages of this thread. A question just came in my mind, at this present time, how is the chances to not see a new 2nd gen 86/BRZ?

do you have a coin to flip?

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by ZDan

FWIW, BRZ mpg by year data from fuelly.com:
'13: 27.3
'14: 26.7
'15: 26.9
'16: 25.4
'17: 26.0
'18: 25.6
'19: 26.0
'20: 25.3

i average 20-22mpg... but it's a significant gain over my last car with a 3.0 v6, which averaged around 7-10mpg

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by soundman98

do you have a coin to flip?

Need to have 3 sides.
Could be released as per their original plan. Whatever that actually was.
Could be delayed for an indefinite period.
Could be canned completely.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Need to have 3 sides.
Could be released as per their original plan. Whatever that actually was.
Could be delayed for an indefinite period.
Could be canned completely.

nah, just 2 sides. the last 2 can be combined considering that anything over 3 months might as well count to most people as NEVER EVEAH COMING OUT...

remember, a minor change in social habits for 2 months is somehow justified as being called 'a new normal'. so by that justification, 3 months is a time span longer than an eternity...

[beltax90]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Showing us this is grounds for a permaban from the forums. I mean what did we do to you to deserve this?

hopefully the new one can incorporate some of the ft1 feautres

[soundman98]

#bannableoffence

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by soundman98

nah, just 2 sides. the last 2 can be combined considering that anything over 3 months might as well count to most people as NEVER EVEAH COMING OUT...

remember, a minor change in social habits for 2 months is somehow justified as being called 'a new normal'. so by that justification, 3 months is a time span longer than an eternity...

We have no idea what the new normal will be. It won’t be the old normal but we certainly are not there yet.

[Vides990]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Care to elaborate? I’d love to read more first hand experiences of people going from early cars to late ones. I think I want to get a 2019-2020 in the near future but I’m afraid that after switching I’ll realize 2 months in that it’s not the same magic.

Not Tcoat, but I just did the same thing, I'm really happy with the trade. Originally I wasn't planning to sell my 1st one but I realized I wasn't going to want to drive it after testing the TS. Car is tighter, even more responsive, throttle improvement from the gears and reworked engine in 2017 is noticeable and ultimately it just seems better made.

[Stephen W.]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

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That final drive that makes starting out so nice really impacts mileage when 98% of your driving is done between 70 and 75 on the highway I have gone from 32MPG to 28. Not that I am a Prius mileage fanatic or anything but that is a substantial change. I used to cruise at around 3200 and now am over 3500 most of my commute.

Your car is still new. Wait until you have 20 or 30k on it with a free flow exhaust. It may never be as good as you had but it will get better than what you see now.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Oh and that slippery steering wheel cover. Who thought that was good?

Two words; Driving Gloves!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Stephen W.

Your car is still new. Wait until you have 20 or 30k on it with a free flow exhaust. It may never be as good as you had but it will get better than what you see now.

Two words; Driving Gloves!

That is my hope!


I am NOT wearing god damned gloves to drive my commuter car. I have no need to play race car driver. I will just make sure I get loads of coffee on it to make it sticky.