best brakes from rock auto?

[churchx]

I'd suggest to skip supercharging. Same with weight reduction. They by no means are not required for track, but will rise budget. If you haven't ever been to track before, the biggest slow down is nut behind wheel. Improving own skills/getting more seat time will net much more laptime reduction/higher speed, then car mods. And staying NA, paying just for most needed mods (eg. higher rated brake pads/fluid, performance alignment, wearables like pads/tires/fuel), will reduce by much tracking budget, resulting more trackdays (and maybe tutoring received to steepen learning curve) to be affordable. I've seen plenty of people modding heck out of car, supposedly "for track preparation" .. and never actually taking it to track, or driving very slow if/when it finally happens. And plenty of track enthusiasts having their share of fun and driving very fast on seemingly very unfit for track cars, underpowered old beaters, generic family cars, etc. .. but they tracked them a lot compared to those that spend all money on modding.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by RWD fun

b) I hit 200k miles, at which point I'll be doing a full tear down of everything and supercharging. The plan is to reduce all of the unsprung weight (rims, brake set-up) and replace or upgrade major motor parts for the supercharger (on a stock block, goal is 280-300hp). So for now, I need to put some easy miles on the car.

You should really get seat time on a non-modified low powered reliable car. Building a missile and hitting the track without experience is a recipe for getting passed by a stock miata in the beginner groups.

This isn't a Honda, you don't have to adjust the valves. Something to check when you get to that 200k teardown imho.
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114499

[RWD fun]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

You should really get seat time on a non-modified low powered reliable car. Building a missile and hitting the track without experience is a recipe for getting passed by a stock miata in the beginner groups.

This isn't a Honda, you don't have to adjust the valves. Something to check when you get to that 200k teardown imho.
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114499

Skip valves for now, got it. It didn't seem like something people were doing on a regular basis.

[RWD fun]

Originally Posted by churchx

I'd suggest to skip supercharging. Same with weight reduction. They by no means are not required for track, but will rise budget. If you haven't ever been to track before, the biggest slow down is nut behind wheel. Improving own skills/getting more seat time will net much more laptime reduction/higher speed, then car mods. And staying NA, paying just for most needed mods (eg. higher rated brake pads/fluid, performance alignment, wearables like pads/tires/fuel), will reduce by much tracking budget, resulting more trackdays (and maybe tutoring received to steepen learning curve) to be affordable. I've seen plenty of people modding heck out of car, supposedly "for track preparation" .. and never actually taking it to track, or driving very slow if/when it finally happens. And plenty of track enthusiasts having their share of fun and driving very fast on seemingly very unfit for track cars, underpowered old beaters, generic family cars, etc. .. but they tracked them a lot compared to those that spend all money on modding.

I understand completely. In that case I may just work on braking/steering and suspension. I have the modding bug and I've generally love to modify everything. I hands down love the way the car drives and having been a 4 time Honda owner this is a whole new world. I just never saw the point of modifying any of the cars I've owned previously. But this, I really like.

[churchx]

Braking/suspension also is not that required to do right now, for only daily driven car. As several of track oriented mods in those areas will compromise and bring cons for DD use. For example - why do you need track oriented brake pads and more expensive brake fluid (or maybe even BBK), if you'll never get them to their working temp range, resulting in higher wear, loud squeal at every traffic light stop, extensive brake dusting, or that will require to buy also different wheels if wished BBK won't clear stock wheels? Or why get track oriented alignment with lot of static negative camber, which will slightly actually reduce grip in light daily driving in straights and add uneven inner sides of tires wear?
And even if when one starts to track, even those basic mods .. imho it's beneficial to take completely stock car on first or second trackday. So that one finds out by his own experience deficiencies/limits, so that mods are done afterwards due by felt and understood reason, not because others suggested so. For example brakes - yes, stock pads/fluid will result in brakes fading soon. One felt how it is, one will know when to slow down for cooldown lap, and what to improve/change (if wants longer track sessions). Or alignment .. one will feel stock understeer-ish grip bias and front plowing out in curves, or will see uneven outside tire wear, and will know now what/why to fix, and will have previous-baseline to compare to in change of feel and/or speed/laptimes, what eg. changes in alignment brought. I find it fun and satisfactory to not just drive fast at track, but also learning both techniques & about various mechanic things in car.

[HaXx]

Centric is the parent company of StopTech, correct?

and i just googled akebono brake brand, says theyre bmanufactured (or assembled) in USA, whatever thats worth

[RWD fun]

Originally Posted by churchx

Braking/suspension also is not that required to do right now, for only daily driven car. As several of track oriented mods in those areas will compromise and bring cons for DD use. For example - why do you need track oriented brake pads and more expensive brake fluid (or maybe even BBK), if you'll never get them to their working temp range, resulting in higher wear, loud squeal at every traffic light stop, extensive brake dusting, or that will require to buy also different wheels if wished BBK won't clear stock wheels? Or why get track oriented alignment with lot of static negative camber, which will slightly actually reduce grip in light daily driving in straights and add uneven inner sides of tires wear?
And even if when one starts to track, even those basic mods .. imho it's beneficial to take completely stock car on first or second trackday. So that one finds out by his own experience deficiencies/limits, so that mods are done afterwards due by felt and understood reason, not because others suggested so. For example brakes - yes, stock pads/fluid will result in brakes fading soon. One felt how it is, one will know when to slow down for cooldown lap, and what to improve/change (if wants longer track sessions). Or alignment .. one will feel stock understeer-ish grip bias and front plowing out in curves, or will see uneven outside tire wear, and will know now what/why to fix, and will have previous-baseline to compare to in change of feel and/or speed/laptimes, what eg. changes in alignment brought. I find it fun and satisfactory to not just drive fast at track, but also learning both techniques & about various mechanic things in car.

This project is several years down the road, so I'll have plenty of time to consider my options. In the mean time, I'll be buying some standard maintenance parts so I can make it several years with this car. The beauty of it is that I got this car at an incredible price, So whatever happens to it, it's not going to upend everything.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by HaXx

Centric is the parent company of StopTech, correct?

and i just googled akebono brake brand, says theyre bmanufactured (or assembled) in USA, whatever thats worth

Seems like it. If my thermometer tell me the Rayspestos run cooler than Centrics, Imma take it's word. I'll take pyrometer reading over internet expert assumptions any. Day. Of. The. Week. lmao

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by RWD fun

I understand completely. In that case I may just work on braking/steering and suspension. I have the modding bug and I've generally love to modify everything. I hands down love the way the car drives and having been a 4 time Honda owner this is a whole new world. I just never saw the point of modifying any of the cars I've owned previously. But this, I really like.

Try an autocross. Good thing you can do with 0 mods that will improve your driving. It's kinda fun too.



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[RWD fun]

I do have one more question, which may not be worth a whole new thread. The car came with an Ark DT-S exhaust, which looks great but creates a lot of noise. The car also came with an ECU flasher (OpenFlash V1), here's my question.

If I go back to stock exhaust, would it still make sense to keep the "Stage 1" tune? I understand that the factory tune is a bit goofy in the mid-range of RPM's. I've never been a believer in the miracle of bolt on parts for power.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by RWD fun

I do have one more question, which may not be worth a whole new thread. The car came with an Ark DT-S exhaust, which looks great but creates a lot of noise. The car also came with an ECU flasher (OpenFlash V1), here's my question.

If I go back to stock exhaust, would it still make sense to keep the "Stage 1" tune? I understand that the factory tune is a bit goofy in the mid-range of RPM's. I've never been a believer in the miracle of bolt on parts for power.

Stage 1 is meant for a completely stock car, so it’s perfectly fine!

[RWD fun]

Awesome thank you! If anyone's interested the DT-S will be for sale at some point. It's on the car and not going anywhere for a while so if you're interested just leave a comment. Price TBD pending condition once removed but I think $700-800ish shipped CONUS.