Toyota and Subaru Officially Confirm Second Gen 86! (September 27, 2019)

[Stephen W.]

Originally Posted by sneaky_pete

hopefully they don't follow the lead of the "Z" dynasty. the Nissan/Datsun 240Z was a great car, then they just got progressively fatter and lazier.....

They all do it, ruin a perfectly good car with bloat!
I thought my 1st gen 3 door Honda Civic was a sub compact. Now the 2019 Civic is advertised as a "Mid Sized Sedan". Go figure, eh ;
And don't get me started on what Subaru did to the STi...

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Stephen W.

They all do it, ruin a perfectly good car with bloat!
I thought my 1st gen 3 door Honda Civic was a sub compact. Now the 2019 Civic is advertised as a "Mid Sized Sedan". Go figure, eh ;
And don't get me started on what Subaru did to the STi...

This is funny, because the 2019 hatchbacks are only a couple inches off of those sedans as old as 2006(maybe older).. The 2019 sedan on the other hand...

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by sneaky_pete

hopefully they don't follow the lead of the "Z" dynasty. the Nissan/Datsun 240Z was a great car, then they just got progressively fatter and lazier.....

Mitsubishi did a great job at that with the Eclipse!

[MJones_RB]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I was given a model of the USS Constitution for my birthday and am currently doing my deep dive research prior to building. It was interesting to learn that the "oldest" commissioned ship in the world is only 8 to 10% original parts. Sort of a real life example of the thought experiment.

I have a 100-year old push broom that I still use, all original. The handle has been replaced 10 times and the bristles 20 times, but other than that completely original.

[scuzzy]

Not enough 2nd gen. threads going so I'm bringing this one back to life . . .

You're welcome internet!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by scuzzy

Not enough 2nd gen. threads going so I'm bringing this one back to life . . .

You're welcome internet!

[ROFL it's Waffle]

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by dnieves

Mitsubishi did a great job at that with the Eclipse!

Yup, It got so much fatter and lazier than the past models that it literally transformed into a CUV!

[FRSapex]

Originally Posted by sneaky_pete

hopefully they don't follow the lead of the "Z" dynasty. the Nissan/Datsun 240Z was a great car, then they just got progressively fatter and lazier.....

Well said. My no frills series-1 240Z is much more desirable, lighter and way more fun to drive with a higher-rev engine than the 260Z, 280Z, 280ZX.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by FRSapex

Well said. My no frills series-1 240Z is much more desirable, lighter and way more fun to drive with a higher-rev engine than the 260Z, 280Z, 280ZX.

Swapping out the L24 in my 240Z for a 3.1 liter bored/stroked L28 was one of the best things I ever did for it
Took quite a few more mods but ultimately that motor reved to 7200 rpm

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by FRSapex

Well said. My no frills series-1 240Z is much more desirable, lighter and way more fun to drive with a higher-rev engine than the 260Z, 280Z, 280ZX.

And that color

[FRSapex]

Originally Posted by ZDan

Swapping out the L24 in my 240Z for a 3.1 liter bored/stroked L28 was one of the best things I ever did for it
Took quite a few more mods but ultimately that motor raved to 7200 rpm

That sounds awesome!
My brother has a rebello 3.0 stroker under his 240Z - it smokes!
Yup - it's all about power to weight ratio. This is my 4th 240Z. it was purchased from original owner's wife/widow. He purchased this new in Japan (sadly he ordered LH-drive from factory) and has a ton of documents in 3-ring folders x3 to include the sales person's business card and Japanese plates. So, i left this one alone.
My other 240 got the F54 flat-top, P90 head. N36 intake and brog-warner 5-speed. My brother torched that too.

[Lambs]

I am not sure what the 2nd generation will look like or if it's still on track to happen BUT I can confirm that there will be no Toyota 86 in 2021 so if they are coming out with a new 86, there will be a year at least of nothing between them.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Lambs

I am not sure what the 2nd generation will look like or if it's still on track to happen BUT I can confirm that there will be no Toyota 86 in 2021 so if they are coming out with a new 86, there will be a year at least of nothing between them.

BUT...
BUT...
BUT...
Motor1 and the rest of the clickbaits showed a picture of a meeting which clearly showed a summer 2021 release date for the 2nd Gen 86. It was right there in grey and beige. How dare anybody dispute that.