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More durable knuckle & bearing, same reason the STI changed to this in 2005 and almost every other Subaru & Toyota models are now using it. Just seems logical and economical to use a common parts stream.
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Another thing to consider is whatever chassis, drivetrain, etc. that is coming on the 2nd gen has already been designed and engineered. If it wasn’t the car wouldn’t already have a Summer 2021 planned release date. That and the TNGA doesn't look like it was ever planned to accomadate RWD
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Then why did you ask me why they didn't make a 2800 lb Supra if it's so easy? I already said even the BRZ wouldn't be able to weigh 2800 lbs if they increased hp. Are you just dense or?
Why am I not surprised that you'd suggest examples that prove the point are meaningless. Quote:
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This would be nice. I have gone through 2 right front hubs and 1 left front. I need to order two more so I have a spare.
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Insulting me does not in anyway make your argument stronger. I will rephrase the question. What causes the Supra to weigh so much more than an 86 when dimensionally it is very close?
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@Opie I can't quote you.
I am not sure how even the auto "journalists" can not grasp the difference between a platform and a chassis. As you point out (and I have about 200 times) they are not the same thing. https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=253
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TNGA is also used on FR Lexus vehicles, so we know what it can accommodate.
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They make no money on these cars. My 2016 was 1 of about 4600 sold I think. These are just to promote the brand and hopefully get someone excited to buy other subies/yotas. Why spend a ton more engineering and development costs to make no money. It’s not like a turbo will sell double of these things. They are completely impractical, which is by design as it is a sports car. The market is pretty good now, when it slows demand for these thing will drop. Used prices could be good for those sitting with some cash.
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Disagree. Lack of power has been the #1 complaint of the twins since release.
Hear it over and over again. It’s exactly the reason I and others I know don’t own one. Add a turbo and I’ll add it to my garage, which has been a LONG list of turbocharged AWD and RWD cars. They’d sell a shit-ton if they do it right. |
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When will it be understood that they have no desire to sell a "shit ton" of these cars? It was designed and built to what a large group of people asked for. If it isn't what some want or need then too bad just move on to something else since they don't give a crap what you want. There are plenty of high HP coupes to chose from so why obsess on changing this one when there are many many satisfied owners?
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Both my Toyota and Subaru dealers have said they lose a pile of sales because Joe or Jane takes it out on a test drive, kicks the rear out by accident and doesn't buy because it is "to powerful". Then you have the internet where every critic is obviously a professional race car driver that has nothing but open roads that they drive every day that complain it needs more power. These guys are just going to mod for even more power no matter what it comes with stock because that is just the way their heads work. Anybody that is driving these cars on public roads at more than about 6/10s of its abilities is just an asshat anyway.
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The vast majority of twins I see on the road are bone stock. Right down to the crappy Primacy's. Have you ever considered a very large group of people buy this car because it is a good commuter?
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