Official FT-86 Specs / Info Thread

[S2KtoFT86]

Originally Posted by YourFearlessLeader

No cruise control? No sunroof?

Deal breaker for me.

Hmm, I guess to each his own but a real sports car doesn't need those things. Also, if you read about the R-Spec, it says they're trying to do away with the amenities that aren't needed in order to cut some weight. Granted, there are a few things they could still cut out but it's a good start. I've seen some modded Genesis's and they look downright awesome. That thing's ready for the track right off the showroom floor. Gets a thumbs up in my book.

[White Comet]

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86

Ok I guess you caught me. However, I have all that you just mentioned in my S.

Yes, but we don't have that in our respective modern day cars. And for a fraction of the S2k price? Sold!

[S2KtoFT86]

Originally Posted by White Comet

Yes, but we don't have that in our respective modern day cars. And for a fraction of the S2k price? Sold!

I didn't buy my S new but still got screwed on how much I paid for it. It wasn't near the 23k price though.

[NESW20]

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86

Hmm, I guess to each his own but a real sports car doesn't need those things. Also, if you read about the R-Spec, it says they're trying to do away with the amenities that aren't needed in order to cut some weight.

they already made the car HEAVY. i don't remember (or care to look for right now) exact weights, i just remember thinking "wow, what a porker." cruise control shouldn't add any weight to the car, aside from a switch to turn it on. with electronic throttles, no CC actuator is necessary.

just seems like ditching amenities is a too-little-too-late effort to make the car lighter.

-Mike

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by NESW20

they already made the car HEAVY. i don't remember (or care to look for right now) exact weights, i just remember thinking "wow, what a porker." cruise control shouldn't add any weight to the car, aside from a switch to turn it on. with electronic throttles, no CC actuator is necessary.

just seems like ditching amenities is a too-little-too-late effort to make the car lighter.

-Mike

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicle/Ge...ecs/specs.aspx

The curb weight for the 2.0t base is 3294lbs and the 2.0T Track model is 3362lbs. During a recent Web event with the U.S. poduct manager for Hyundai we were told the R-Spec will weigh in around the same as the base 2.0T model.

Yeah it is still heavy....I would have liked to see them drop 200lbs more and get the car near 3000lbs. But what do you expect the car is based off a large luxury sedan platform? It's not like they were going to be able to turn the Genesis sedan into a miata sized coupe.

[scape]

to be honest, i think you'd save money by getting a base genesis and doing it all aftermarket (assuming that's a possibility). turbo charging a 2.0L engine to 210 hp is lackluster at best, definitely disappointing on such a heavy car-- but they have to be able to meet warranty requirements for all types of drivers i guess. if I were into the genesis i'd just jump for the base v6 and work from there.
thankfully i'm not

[zigzagz94]

Just another thing about the curb weight of the genesis coupe R-spec.

To put it into perspective a 1999 Mitsubishi eclipse gsx had a curb weight of 3270lbs and 210hp... almost exactly the same as the R-spec. Of course the gsx had a heavy awd system but it was also a lot smaller than a R-spec. Everyone loved the GSX and now 10 years later Hyundai is able to release a car with similar numbers (and probably the same type of moddability) despite all the mandatory heavy safety features of modern cars; and people still rag on the genesis coupe. I think a lot of it has to do with badge snobbery and not the actual car itself.

And the GSX cost $27k in 1999 where as the R-spec is only $24k.

[S2KtoFT86]

Originally Posted by NESW20

they already made the car HEAVY. i don't remember (or care to look for right now) exact weights, i just remember thinking "wow, what a porker." cruise control shouldn't add any weight to the car, aside from a switch to turn it on. with electronic throttles, no CC actuator is necessary.

just seems like ditching amenities is a too-little-too-late effort to make the car lighter.

-Mike

Yeah, I agree but I think if you wanted a pure track car then it would get gutted anyway. Anything that's not absolutely necessary has to go.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

Just another thing about the curb weight of the genesis coupe R-spec.

To put it into perspective a 1999 Mitsubishi eclipse gsx had a curb weight of 3270lbs and 210hp... almost exactly the same as the R-spec. Of course the gsx had a heavy awd system but it was also a lot smaller than a R-spec. Everyone loved the GSX and now 10 years later Hyundai is able to release a car with similar numbers (and probably the same type of moddability) despite all the mandatory heavy safety features of modern cars; and people still rag on the genesis coupe. I think a lot of it has to do with badge snobbery and not the actual car itself.

And the GSX cost $27k in 1999 where as the R-spec is only $24k.

LOL it's so true. A lot of people buy car for badge. Jaguar & Ford, Mazda & Ford, Geo & Toyota, Dodge & Mitsubishi, etc... They all the same, but ppl prefer one or the other.

It's kinda funny that Hyundai is now manufactured by Honda. '00 & the up Hyundai car has the lil sticker that says it. My friend has '01 Hyundai Sonata and it has that sticker.

[NESW20]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

Just another thing about the curb weight of the genesis coupe R-spec.

To put it into perspective a 1999 Mitsubishi eclipse gsx had a curb weight of 3270lbs and 210hp... almost exactly the same as the R-spec. Of course the gsx had a heavy awd system but it was also a lot smaller than a R-spec. Everyone loved the GSX and now 10 years later Hyundai is able to release a car with similar numbers (and probably the same type of moddability) despite all the mandatory heavy safety features of modern cars; and people still rag on the genesis coupe. I think a lot of it has to do with badge snobbery and not the actual car itself.

And the GSX cost $27k in 1999 where as the R-spec is only $24k.

i'm unable to see where 10+ years of technology has improved the genesis over the GSX, honestly. it's still using a 2.0L turbo, yet it doesn't have any horsepower advantage. it doesn't have AWD, yet it doesn't have a weight advantage.

anyway, back to the topic, i sincerely hope that Toyota/Subaru can keep the weight of the FT86 to a minimum, 2700 or under. that would give it roughly a 600 pound advantage over the genesis.

-Mike

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by NESW20

i sincerely hope that Toyota/Subaru can keep the weight of the FT86 to a minimum, 2700 or under. that would give it roughly a 600 pound advantage over the genesis.

-Mike

This we can agree on and that's what makes the FT-86 very exciting.

[Mouse]

Well...If mazda stays true to their target weight the next-gen miata will have a 500 pound advantage over the FT.

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by Mouse

Well...If mazda stays true to their target weight the next-gen miata will have a 500 pound advantage over the FT.

Yes but they refuse to make a Miata COUPE so it is a moot point.

Some of us refuse to drive convertibles!!!!

[Mouse]

Buy a hard top...It'll probably add a maximum of 50 pounds.