2022 Toyota 86 (Click-bait articles) - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

weederr33 · 01-13-2020, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Will BRZ

I kinda feel like making my own article about the next-gen and see how many people I can trick.

“The 2021 Toyota 86: Hybrid, SUV, Turbo? Maybe All 3. Number 5 will shock you...”

"Automakers HATE Toyota's little secret. Click here to find out more!"

humfrz · 01-14-2020, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

The URL tells me everything I need to know. It's garbage clickbait. Not even going to read it.

OKaaaaaa …. so be it, you will be the last one to know -

humfrz

evoto86 · 01-14-2020, 02:07 AM

does that mean its no longer cheap and affordable.

Yoniyama · 01-14-2020, 07:24 AM

My thought:

(1) Even if a prototype is shown in 2021, I doubt if it will be for sale before 2023.

(2) History has shown that rushing a new model out leads to many, many significant quality problems.

(3) Toyota has tried to spice up its line-up, even Camry and Corolla have become less boring. There is hope the new FT86 will keep its high performance bias.

(4) I will not be surprised if it contains some electrification feature, eg a hybrid drive-train.

(5) I am very happy with my 2019 FT-86, it is free of many bugs of early models.

Dirty Harry · 01-14-2020, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by weederr33

Why is it rendered as a hatchback? Not that I'm against it, just seems odd.

The AE86 was a hatchback.

I must admit the rendering looks pretty cool though.

ROFL it's Waffle · 01-14-2020, 08:22 AM

When American car companies change the working formula, they end up with the Pontiac Aztec. When Japanese car companies change the working formula, they end up with +0.2L engine displacement.

S2000 AP1 --> 2.0L
S2000 AP2 --> 2.2L

NSX NA1 --> 3.0L
NSX NA2 --> 3.2L
NSX Gen 2 > 3.5L (plus Porsche 918-like "hybrid" performance)

Subaru has their own formula between NA and Turbo cars... If they didn't want to ruin the balance, I can see them dropping to a 1.8L and adding a turbo or SC to maintain the miles/smiles per gallon. It's pretty apparent that automakers are being pressured into designing more environmentally friendly mass-produced vehicles.

Dadhawk · 01-14-2020, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will BRZ

“The 2021 Toyota 86: Hybrid, SUV, Turbo? Maybe All 3. Number 5 will shock you...”

Quote:

Originally Posted by weederr33

"Automakers HATE Toyota's little secret. Click here to find out more!"

You forgot to include a "legitmate" photo of the new car in your teaser ad...

Opie · 01-14-2020, 09:20 AM

Pretty sure the 2nd Gen 86 / BRZ development is much further along than we all think, bet we'll see it fall of 2021 as a 2022. Subaru is an expert of hiding development and Toyota is pretty good as well.

reni · 01-14-2020, 09:46 AM

There's no way they will make a high-power turbo 86... they have to keep it relatively slow as to not upstage the Supra

PetrolioBenzina · 01-14-2020, 10:33 AM

Circular reporting is great.

mazeroni · 01-14-2020, 11:03 AM

Should have used Autocar's renders... At least they look good (baby Aston Martins).

flyboy2160 · 01-14-2020, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

Circular reporting is great.

It deserves a Noble Prize in Psychics for some type of perpetual motion/endless energy loop.

YamahaR86 · 01-14-2020, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reni

There's no way they will make a high-power turbo 86... they have to keep it relatively slow as to not upstage the Supra

Thinking this as well. Plus they can't upstage WRX sales either.

KR-S · 01-14-2020, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazeroni

Should have used Autocar's renders... At least they look good (baby Aston Martins).

That looks too Supra-like for my taste. Not a fan.

01-14-2020, 08:22 AM	#34
ROFL it's Waffle The guy w/o an FRS or BRZ Join Date: Sep 2019 Drives: '23 GR86 Premium 6MT Halo White Location: Planet Erf Posts: 446 Thanks: 276 Thanked 399 Times in 215 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	When American car companies change the working formula, they end up with the Pontiac Aztec. When Japanese car companies change the working formula, they end up with +0.2L engine displacement. S2000 AP1 --> 2.0L S2000 AP2 --> 2.2L NSX NA1 --> 3.0L NSX NA2 --> 3.2L NSX Gen 2 > 3.5L (plus Porsche 918-like "hybrid" performance) Subaru has their own formula between NA and Turbo cars... If they didn't want to ruin the balance, I can see them dropping to a 1.8L and adding a turbo or SC to maintain the miles/smiles per gallon. It's pretty apparent that automakers are being pressured into designing more environmentally friendly mass-produced vehicles. Last edited by ROFL it's Waffle; 01-14-2020 at 09:40 AM.

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Yoniyama Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: BRZ 2018 Location: California Posts: 119 Thanks: 116 Thanked 66 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My thought: (1) Even if a prototype is shown in 2021, I doubt if it will be for sale before 2023. (2) History has shown that rushing a new model out leads to many, many significant quality problems. (3) Toyota has tried to spice up its line-up, even Camry and Corolla have become less boring. There is hope the new FT86 will keep its high performance bias. (4) I will not be surprised if it contains some electrification feature, eg a hybrid drive-train. (5) I am very happy with my 2019 FT-86, it is free of many bugs of early models.

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