Toyota GR Yaris

[JD001]

In the "flesh" so to speak..

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

The powertrain is where I'm worried, I wouldn't hate something FWD biased, but without some LSD it will be a hot mess trying to drive it at 10/10ths.

it's available with 2 torsens and can put 100% of the power to the rears. sport mode sends 70% to the rear by default. track mode puts it in 50/50. It sounds wonderful!

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

You are literally comparing a car from 2008 to a car from 2020, that's like saying the latest mustang is crap because the SN95s were crap, literally skipping a whole generation of development, or C6 Corvettes vs C4, or CRX vs CVCC.

IDGAF how bad the car was 10+ years ago, and if you're smart you shouldn't either.

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I don't understand how one can compare a similarly named vehicle from 12 years ago with a modern car.

Cars can evolve over time, but they generally stay in the same class. This is a class (not just size) lower than the Corolla just like a Honda Fit is lower than a Civic. The quality will be proportionally lower today than as it was in 2008. Maybe they can polish a turd enough to make it nice, but generally speaking, that doesn’t happen.

Some people don’t mind that a $25k Mustang shares so much with an $80k Mustang GT500. In that sense, maybe they can make the Yaris be bad ass, but some will always notice that they shined up a turd and see what’s lacking. I shined up my BRZ, so who knows, even I could eat my words about this Yaris.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Maybe they can polish a turd enough to make it nice

I guessing we have differing views on what constitutes a turd. (And no, I'm not going to post a picture of what I dropped in the bowl this morning lol)
I've posted before about what a great car I think mum's 2013 Yaris is. Yeah, the interior is low rent but it doesn't squeak and nothing has fallen off. I think it fulfills its purpose well especially given it cost $17k new.


I actually like the turd.

[jflogerzi]

Come on Toyota bring this to the states! I like the style and Interior. But we need a replacement for the little ST from Ford. But I don't think I would trade my FRS. I wonder what corn juice would do for this motor

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[JD001]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Cars can evolve over time, but they generally stay in the same class. This is a class (not just size) lower than the Corolla just like a Honda Fit is lower than a Civic. The quality will be proportionally lower today than as it was in 2008. Maybe they can polish a turd enough to make it nice, but generally speaking, that doesn’t happen.

Some people don’t mind that a $25k Mustang shares so much with an $80k Mustang GT500. In that sense, maybe they can make the Yaris be bad ass, but some will always notice that they shined up a turd and see what’s lacking. I shined up my BRZ, so who knows, even I could eat my words about this Yaris.

Golf MK1 to what we have now.. it's not the same class..

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by JD001

it's not the same class..

Then




Now

[JD001]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

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So what you are saying is that the classrooms have gone from full of Eastern European migrants to East Asian migrants.. and now only smaller bunch..

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by JD001

So what you are saying is that the classrooms have gone from full of Eastern European migrants to East Asian migrants.. and now only smaller bunch..

Correct. The cloning process got outsourced overseas.

[JD001]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Correct. The cloning process got outsourced overseas.

LOL!! It's like the tides, 'outsorcing' will come back.. promise..

[Captain Snooze]

Outsaucing.

[JD001]

Wait a minute, does this belong in 'Tcoat's lunch gone sexual' or something??

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by JD001

Golf MK1 to what we have now.. it's not the same class..

No, it’s still in the same class. The Yaris hasn’t eclipsed the Corolla. Just because they built up the Yaris to out perform the Corolla doesn’t change the class of the Yaris. Just because a Mustang GT500 has more power than a Ford GT and might do the 1/4 mile faster doesn’t mean it’s in a higher class or even in the same class. It’s still a Mustang.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

No, it’s still in the same class. The Yaris hasn’t eclipsed the Corolla. Just because they built up the Yaris to out perform the Corolla doesn’t change the class of the Yaris. Just because a Mustang GT500 has more power than a Ford GT and might do the 1/4 mile faster doesn’t mean it’s in a higher class or even in the same class. It’s still a Mustang.

And an STI is just an Impreza
And a Civic Type R is just a Civic
And a Golf R is just a Golf
And a Focus RS is just a Focus
And a Veloster N is just a Veloster

All starting at the $20k shitbox price point.

Sounds to me like they nailed a segment you never cared about, why put so much energy into explaining why?