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Here is a dead honest review, tips and tricks from a Stage II and Sport owner that tracks the car a lot: Wilwood is a known good brand of calipers - Not great - but good. Wilwood parts are easy to buy for replacements/rebuilds The supplied caliper adapter brackets are ok quality. In a world where flyin miata makes beautiful brackets that are anodized with machined text, these are a little lack luster. The fact that we have to add shims to square the caliper is also not ideal. The brackets should have been made to properly square the caliper with the rotor. IMO - the kit should come with custom brake hoses. Not adapt the OEM to fit. But that is one way RR keeps the cost down. Putting a positive spin on it, this keeps quick hose replacements easy to source. Don't get them powder coated. The raw finish that willwood supplies is far superior and will look good longer. See the yellow caliper above. That is after 1 year of heavy use. Customer service is amazing. I had a ton of questions. The fact that this system uses the OEM performance package rotors means rotors will always be available and cheap. Also, get the stage 2 kit unless your wheel offset holds you back. The stage 2 kit uses thicker pads which last longer. Willwood pads are complete garbage from any performance standpoint. Swap them out for anything else. Brake component life has drastically increased and brake performance (especially with the rear sport kit) is amazing.
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Overall I do like the kit an have recommended it to a bunch of people. In fact, a track car friend of mine is switching from AP Sprint to the RR stage 2 and sport rear kit because of the super cheap replacement parts.
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Thanks Takumi for the review.
Yeah for the price point, they are really attractive. I have someone who is gets them directly saying he can get the red stage 1 (with BP20 and lines) for me for $1130 which is pretty good (I think there is no non-powder coat option) I want to go with stage 1 since I am running OEM TRD wheels for summer and OEM wheels for winter and keep my rear as OEM. I realize the pads would have shorter life but honestly it might be more cost effective in the long run vs trying to find bigger wheels to fit the stage 2 and the 'safer to avoid' spacers (even if they are perfectly safe, I'd like to have peace of mind knowing nothing is between my wheels and hubs). Ideally I'd like the rears but I have heard that the 86 doesn't need a rear kit...that and I am not too keen about removing the dust shields and/or messing with the ebrake myself. I have a SARD rear wing paired with a verus front splitter that gives some downforce...I'm not sure if that makes a difference in the bias as I hear the stage 1/2 kits shift the bias frontward. As long as this kit is a large improvement from OEM, reliable, and truly 'worth' the upgrade for the cost (all said and done, 1k is still 1k/a lot) and not a waste of money, then that's all I need |
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The rear sport kit moves bias to the back. Which is preferred. Check out this LINK I think you have the idea tho. Its a good kit for the money. Perfect for a budget conscious track nut.
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But if you're not encountering brake fade and/or you don't go through pads and rotors frequently, you may be better off using the OEM setup with good brake pads and ducting.
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Thanks all,
So for stage 1, what front brake pads should I get for street and track each (or hybrid if any)? And for rear oem, whats the best pad for street and track (or hybrid)? Currently have ferodo ds 2500 in oem set up Obviously would like to be as close to stock bias as possible for all set ups |
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What ever you put in the front, you want a slightly more aggressive pad in the back. The RR guys reference winmax w5's in the back of that gives you an idea.
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Hmm, why not leave rotors but just rebed them with street pads (or with track pads, when switching to them prior track)?
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I was told by RR customer support that only BP pads fit the stage but evidently from this thread you can fit other pads. Is this true? Any fitment issues? Does 7416 fit stage 1 or 7420 pads?
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To answer your question, the 7416 fits stage 1 since stage 1 uses the forged super narrow calipers and needs a thinner pad. Last edited by fika84; 01-11-2020 at 11:48 AM. Reason: corrected the rear pad part number |
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