2020 Toyota GR Supra Revealed!

[LancePower]

Originally Posted by beltax90

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[WolfpackS2k]

yay, fake hood vents.

can't wait.

[JD001]

Originally Posted by beltax90

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Where are the mirrors?

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by JD001

Where are the mirrors?

That looks like a buck-toothed rejected Pokemon character. Show we call it ToeBeemermon?

[abraxis]

Personally, I love the look of the front grille/nose and the duckbill rear end. Those make it stand out and definitely offer a unique race look. The only reason anything looks off imho is because they had to narrow the car for production and shrink the concept down. Wider fenders really bring the Supra back to where it should have been stock. See the Gazoo track car. Still, it's a great looking car for those of us not tied to more conventional conservative rinse/repeat designs. Sure turns plenty of heads and most of the reaction of gen pop is positive.

A couple things I noticed sitting in it at the car show. On a positive note, somehow I was able to adjust the steering wheel higher clearing more space for my legs in the Supra than the Z4 which I found interesting since they are supposedly 'identical' clones based on the dummies out there who don't know what badge engineering is or the history of this car's development. On the negative side, the front of the hood is really rather tall and I was afraid of that. It's quite hard to find the front of the car which can be annoying for some of us more aggressive type drivers, lol. I know it's an inline-6, but I have to imagine there is extra space sitting under there for euro pedestrian standards. If this is the case, I wish this had explosive bolts so the hood could be lowered like Jaguar's Pedestrian Deployable Bonnet System (PDBS). Maybe a higher end spec in future? Please??

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by JD001

Where are the mirrors?

It's so ugly............

[BA9092]

"The Toyota beat the BMW M2 around Laguna, 1:40.57 versus 1:40.83. How did the 335-hp, automatic-transmission Toyota beat the 405-hp, dual-clutch M car? Let's just say the Supra's power numbers are comically underrated."

Hmmm. And sources are also saying it rides better than the M2.

#thebettermcarcloakedinjapaneseskin

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2019...4D9489C9730254

[ayau]

Originally Posted by BA9092

"The Toyota beat the BMW M2 around Laguna, 1:40.57 versus 1:40.83. How did the 335-hp, automatic-transmission Toyota beat the 405-hp, dual-clutch M car? Let's just say the Supra's power numbers are comically underrated."

Hmmm. And sources are also saying it rides better than the M2.

#thebettermcarcloakedinjapaneseskin

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2019...4D9489C9730254

Those times are too close to each other to declare the Supra the faster car.

[BA9092]

Originally Posted by ayau

Those times are too close to each other to declare the Supra the faster car.

True. But still a noteworthy accolade.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by BA9092

True. But still a noteworthy accolade.

Really because it takes longer to read "1:40.57 versus 1:40.83" than the time represents. a 0.13% or 0.14 second difference in time is just a shoulder shrug unless you were in a head to head drag race. Take one turn 6 inches wider than the other and you probably have a bigger time difference.

[BA9092]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Really because it takes longer to read "1:40.57 versus 1:40.83" than the time represents. a 0.13% or 0.14 second difference in time is just a shoulder shrug unless you were in a head to head drag race. Take one turn 6 inches wider than the other and you probably have a bigger time difference.

Um, 1) duly noted and 2) don't shoot the messenger.

I just thought it was an interesting observation by the editors and test drivers at MT since everyone raves about the (more expensive) M cars (here, the M2.)

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by BA9092

Um, 1) duly noted and 2) don't shoot the messenger.

No shots fired....

[ayau]

Originally Posted by BA9092

Um, 1) duly noted and 2) don't shoot the messenger.

I just thought it was an interesting observation by the editors and test drivers at MT since everyone raves about the (more expensive) M cars (here, the M2.)

The authors probably could have worded it differently, e.g., Supra had similar lap times to cars that costs X times more.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by ayau

Those times are too close to each other to declare the Supra the faster car.

I believe the quote said it beat the M2. Ever watch drag racing? A car can win (or beat another car) without being faster in the quarter mile. I think they would have to repeat that win with multiple drivers over multiple tracks to finally be able to claim the car was a faster car, which wasn't what they were trying to claim or present.

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Really because it takes longer to read "1:40.57 versus 1:40.83" than the time represents. a 0.13% or 0.14 second difference in time is just a shoulder shrug unless you were in a head to head drag race. Take one turn 6 inches wider than the other and you probably have a bigger time difference.

The accolade is noteworthy because the Supra is quoted as being less powerful and costs less.