Accelerated Performance 2013 BRZ - FRS Turbo Kit Designing

[SkullWorks]

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

Again, I'm not an expert but I'd think that a high compression ratio turbocharged N/A engine would be more sensitive to this sort of small stuff rather than a lower compression turbo car.

And you are correct, let people say what they will, once you close that hood it's gonna start heatsoaking everything and as is the inlet air is hotter than stock.

I think people are getting overly defensive because they just want this kit to be the end all be all for this car, I see it as an appetite wetter, Don will sell alot of these kits and probably also improve it in the process and we will all learn from his hard work and dedication.

but every system everywhere ever can be improved, Don has a goal here and he will likely achieve it, but don't let people fool you into thinking nothing else could be done, there's more than one way to skin a cat remember.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by SkullWorks

And you are correct, let people say what they will, once you close that hood it's gonna start heatsoaking everything and as is the inlet air is hotter than stock.

I think people are getting overly defensive because they just want this kit to be the end all be all for this car, I see it as an appetite wetter, Don will sell alot of these kits and probably also improve it in the process and we will all learn from his hard work and dedication.

but every system everywhere ever can be improved, Don has a goal here and he will likely achieve it, but don't let people fool you into thinking nothing else could be done, there's more than one way to skin a cat remember.

LOL... First, I answer because Chewie was answering to me so this is indirectly related to me. I am not defending what was done for this kit, I won't even be buying this kit. I know improvements can be made. I was speaking about Turbos in GENERAL, not this particular one.

I honestly think that running 7-8 psi with an appropriate intercooler (I am not God I could be wrong but it is my understanding), you can lower the temperature to match if it was coming in from the fender or front bumper. Take it easy man, this is not a war of us vs. them.... I have no biases here.

[Chewie4299]

I'm pretty much just brainstorming publicly... I intend to stay NA for some time.

[Synack]

Originally Posted by denkigrve

It drifts just fine in stock form... if you need more torque then you better be trying to compete in FD.

Are you crazy? This car is mediocre at drifting in stock form, maybe if you're drifting around an orange cone in a parking lot. It has neither the horsepower or torque needed to properly drift. Those are just the facts. Now the rest of the car is great for stock drifting, it just lacks power. If your drifting is only lasting 3 seconds or less then you're doing it wrong. Trust me, once this car gets a good 75+whp/wtq it will drift like a boss. And even still with that amount of power it won't be enough for a full drift course, but it will be good enough for me. Personally I'd like to be able to slide at above 50mph.

[whiteout fr-s]

So how many people watching this forum are doing so with the intention of buying this kit in the near future? I know this is something I want and can't wait to get my hands on it

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[sierra]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

No. This rumor needs to die.

It's a tweaked Lexus IS transmission, NOT a IS-F transmission.

Can you qualify this with some info please?

It did seem a super tough tranny for the car.
So has anyone got the specs for the IS?

[MikelJ]

I will buy it with no hesitation once the bugs are worked out and if the price is reasonable for what it is. Gives good fun until I get bored and swap a motor. Lol

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by Synack

Are you crazy? This car is mediocre at drifting in stock form, maybe if you're drifting around an orange cone in a parking lot. It has neither the horsepower or torque needed to properly drift. Those are just the facts. Now the rest of the car is great for stock drifting, it just lacks power. If your drifting is only lasting 3 seconds or less then you're doing it wrong. Trust me, once this car gets a good 75+whp/wtq it will drift like a boss. And even still with that amount of power it won't be enough for a full drift course, but it will be good enough for me. Personally I'd like to be able to slide at above 50mph.

Go read the latest issue of Top Gear magazine. Jeremy Clarkson seems to differ greatly with your opinion on this.

In the end this is just your opinion on the matter, and I don't mean to be rude, but it sounds like lack of understanding of drifting. Go talk to any AE86 driver that slides on sustained drifts. Their cars only make a fraction of the power of this car, and they drift just fine, even at higher speeds. The car just required understanding and tons of practice, but once you got it, you got it. This will be the same thing. It's the AE86 is still loved to this day.

[nix]

I have had major heat soak issues in the past with cars that have had pods bolted on. The worst was a twin pod FD3S.

The Supra was pretty bad, it had huge increases in cold side FMIC temps once the engine bay was fully heat soaked. With a modified airbox (feeds from under the headlight) it made the same numbers on dyno but was far more stable on long runs on the track.

Those were both packed engine bays and high boost high hp applications though, the 86 may have enough space and air flow for it to be a non issue.

[Baker]

Can't wait to hear the results guys, cant wait to void my warranty

any one who says this car dont drift is not driving it right (more power = easier drift)

Guessing i have the highest km on any 86 in australia Up to 7500 got to drive from coast to coast in under 4 days (5000km) loving it. Never drives with stability control on:P

[Synack]

Originally Posted by denkigrve

Go read the latest issue of Top Gear magazine. Jeremy Clarkson seems to differ greatly with your opinion on this.

In the end this is just your opinion on the matter, and I don't mean to be rude, but it sounds like lack of understanding of drifting. Go talk to any AE86 driver that slides on sustained drifts. Their cars only make a fraction of the power of this car, and they drift just fine, even at higher speeds. The car just required understanding and tons of practice, but once you got it, you got it. This will be the same thing. It's the AE86 is still loved to this day.

Sure the car has no problem drifting under 25mph. But that's boring in my opinion. And you can't compete with that. Yes you can get around little tiny Japanese mountain roads and gymkhana drift with the current power but we don't have that nor will we succumb to that here in Texas. We have LOTS of asphalt and we use all of it.

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[skoodge]

Originally Posted by Synack

Sure the car has no problem drifting under 25mph. But that's boring in my opinion. And you can't compete with that. Yes you can get around little tiny Japanese mountain roads and gymkhana drift with the current power but we don't have that nor will we succumb to that here in Texas. We have LOTS of asphalt and we use all of it.

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So move. The AE86 is this car's ancestor for a reason. The FR-S/GT-86 Does what it was designed to do. And it's not under 25mph strictly, I've put the car sideways at 60 and it was damned fun. Even still drifting at low speeds may sound boring but if you actually give it a try instead of screaming "needs moar powa" you'll see that drifting at any speed is exhilarating and requires practice, discipline, and concentration. Don't buy this car thinking you'll be able to go to Formula D stock cause it won't. Find some curvy two lane roads and just have fun, speed doesn't matter in the end, it's just the spirit of the car.

[Ricepuddin]

Originally Posted by Synack

Sure the car has no problem drifting under 25mph. But that's boring in my opinion. And you can't compete with that. Yes you can get around little tiny Japanese mountain roads and gymkhana drift with the current power but we don't have that nor will we succumb to that here in Texas. We have LOTS of asphalt and we use all of it.

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That's funny I live in Texas and have no issues with the stock power on the roads here. Including 145 toll with its 80mph speed limit. Of course I have more fun playing in hill Country then driving fast in a strait line, so take from that what you will.

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[SVTSHC]

Originally Posted by whiteout fr-s

So how many people watching this forum are doing so with the intention of buying this kit in the near future? I know this is something I want and can't wait to get my hands on it

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Right here. My only thing is I'll wait about 3 years after getting the car (lol or try to) before I go the FI route. I'll have warranty, might as well make use of it