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04-21-2019, 05:31 PM | #15 |
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Should've gone Japanese. They know how to look after their cars.
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despite my irrational misspent youth hating fords, the ranger my dad had, and the ranger i now have has treated me at least as well as any import. i've beaten both in ways that they absolutely should have broken, and to this day, both are still some of the most reliable vehicles my families ever purchased.
it's just too bad they couldn't figure out rust prevention better, but tacoma's weren't exactly known to be any better of the same era.
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I’ve been though chassis harness wait times twice. We’re in the middle of another one now.
First was a fairly new car with a known issue of water in the harness. On vacation from NY in Montana at the time. We waited 4 months for the harness. From what I understand, warranty covered his flight home, a rental in NY, a free extended warranty and free prepaid maintenance. He certainly could have gone for lemon law with the time involved, but they made it worth his time to stay in the car. Second was a motorhome, upfitter work failed and burned out a section of harness. I believe we had that thing on the lot for 3-4 months. Upfitter issue, no lemon law. We got it done and we haven’t seen it since. Current car is a new on the lot E43. Rodent damage to the front. Going on 2 months and no harness yet. Also not warranty, obviously. Cars used to be made with one harness. If you didn’t have the CD changer the plugs were just taped up in the trunk. Now everything is made to the VIN. One harness for the whole car, headlights to tail lights, sunroof to wheel speed sensors, and only the plugs you need in the exact spot you need them. Buying a used car saves thousands. It also has its drawbacks. |
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https://www.floridabar.org/public/consumer/tip007/
My mom did this herself with her BMW in California. You might not even need a lawyer.
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Depends on the law, which varies widely.
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not saying you're wrong, but the lemon law is quite consistent across most states. i know somewhat because my brother became the lead tech for alfa romeo for some time, repairing buybacks that other dealers weren't able to repair. all of them had multiple months of repeated repair history before FCA bought them back, and sent them to my brother for further diagnosis.
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Looks like the lemon law time frame in FL is 2 years from initial purchase. Beyond that you’re still under warranty, but not the easy consumer focused protection lemon law provides.
I’ve been directly involved in one buy back. A GL with 500 miles, no sound from the radio. I needed a MOST fiber optic harness, and there were none in the world. Pushing 45 days, they “found one”, shoved in a tiny envelope and sent it in the mail. That shoving kinked the fiber optic cable, making it even worse than the one I had. Shortly after that, we got a nice letter not to touch the car, lock it out back and they would come pick it up. The car was brand new, rolling off the assembly line daily. We asked why they couldn’t walk in to the factory (in Alabama) and grab a harness. I was told MBUSI, who makes cars, was not the same company as MBUSA, who sells and supports cars. Nothing they could do about it. I would think the problem isn’t that they no longer make the harness, but that it has to be made specifically for the car. That takes time, sadly. |
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Just in time manufacturing at its best.
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Nah it has nothing to do with just in time since that applies to the manufacture of the whole vehicle not spare parts. Spare OEM parts are a totally different contract that has nothing to do with making the actual vehicle. Somebody at GM decided that there would be little demand for that particular part so they were not contracted to be made in volume. A quick look through the Camaro forums shows they were very, very wrong since this is a very common (and fairly serious) issue and they just don't have the parts to cover the demand. It isn't as simple as GM just calling up the factory and saying "hey, we need a couple of hundred wiring harnesses tomorrow".
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They had issues with Colorado ZR2s offroading as well - and redesigned the SRS programming and fixed all of them. Blow the engine on one of their track models while at the track and they'll fix it no problem. They have been better than Ford IMO.
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i hadn't heard that they warrantied all the zr2's. last i heard, all the guys that had trail deployments either paid out of pocket, or were fighting it. i still find it so very odd that gm products continually have this issue. guy's beating up trucks offroad isn't anything new, and neither are the cone courses. generally everyone uses the same sensor package, so i would expect to see more oddball deployments from all brands under similar conditions--especially autocross courses, but the only one's i'm seeing anything on even when searching is GM products. toyota had a side-airbag disable button for a while in their trucks, but took it out on the latest generation, but even so, i can't find any record of a toyota truck blowing airbags on a trail... it just confuses me how something like that seems to affect vehicles across a single corporation, and none that i can find outside of it. i really just want to know what the root cause is...
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A lawyer said that the Magnuson-Moss Act only stipulates 3 repairs, not a time period. I suspect the car will be in 2 more times because of the difficulty and complexity of the repair. I'd be amazed if they get it right the first time. But I'm not counting on that. I saw the car, it is absolutely gutted. It also still has a bad odor from when the original damage happened. Smells like burnt wiring really bad. Even gutted with no interior at all, it smelled. I can only imnagine how bad it'll be with the cloth interior put back in. |
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