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Ultramaroon · 04-06-2019, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dake

Remove the spring.

What spring?

Sapphireho · 04-06-2019, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Vancouver, WA has many things I like. But Ultras there, so screw that place.

But it is the only reason I go!? Ok, Mrs. Ultra is really nice, kinda makes up for things.

Ultramaroon · 04-06-2019, 09:53 PM

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jeffchap · 04-06-2019, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

What spring?

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Ultramaroon · 04-07-2019, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dake

Remove the spring.

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Originally Posted by jeffchap

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this

OP, to get back to steering, the power steering servo was tuned to allow for more feedback. There are ways to de-sensitize the assist to get it to kick in gradually so it is less obtrusive. With the engine off, notice how much it takes to hit the hard stops for the torsion bar - the flex in the steering column. That's a lot of error torque for the controller to play with.

Sapphireho · 04-07-2019, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

All are welcome at the Porch of Learning.

Do we really need to take things apart? I know your Vulcan need to teach, but sometimes..

Ultramaroon · 04-07-2019, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Do we really need to take things apart? I know your Vulcan need to teach, but sometimes..

It is incumbent on you to disclose prior experience. Failure to do so is illogical.

Sapphireho · 04-07-2019, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

It is incumbent on you to disclose prior experience. Failure to do so is illogical.

You make it sound so sexy Spock.

suzyj · 04-07-2019, 04:56 AM

I thought the steering was so good because the motor was wound with linear crystal oxygen free wire, and it was assembled under a pyramid, with a carefully calibrated amount of algument juice added.

It’s not rocket science. Triumph have been doing it for ages.

[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2QFxoDHU9o[/ame]

Tcoat · 04-07-2019, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by suzyj

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It’s not rocket science. Triumph have been doing it for ages.

Well technically...

Stephen W. · 04-07-2019, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

Also smallest steering wheel fitted to a production car

Sorry but no. The Lotus Elise/Exige use a 320mm wheel (12.6 inches). The twins have a 360mm which is a smidge over 14.1 inches. Yes smallish but not THE smallest. And yes, the Lotus is considered a "production" car.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh · 04-07-2019, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen W.

Sorry but no. The Lotus Elise/Exige use a 320mm wheel (12.6 inches). The twins have a 360mm which is a smidge over 14.1 inches. Yes smallish but not THE smallest. And yes, the Lotus is considered a "production" car.

I think they meant more like a mainstream, mass produced car. The Elise is made in smaller quantities I believe.

EDIT: I went back to the article and it says smallest diameter ever fitted to a Toyota

BlueWhelan · 04-08-2019, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

I think they meant more like a mainstream, mass produced car. The Elise is made in smaller quantities I believe.

EDIT: I went back to the article and it says smallest diameter ever fitted to a Toyota

Well, the Elise does use a Toyota 2zz...

mazeroni · 04-08-2019, 12:40 PM

This will sound moronic... So last year I did that Extreme Experience driving event at NCM Motorsports Park and one of the cars I drove was a GT3. I remember taking to the car immediately because of its feedback and the speed of the rack.

After getting back into the FRS, I didn't immediately regret not being back in the GT3. Now obviously at 10/10ths the FRS would be doing 3/10ths of what a GT3 is capable of, but just around town at normal speeds and through corners the FR-S is really good for 10% of the price (except the clutch, as others point out.) I honestly can't imagine that if I was blindfold I would notice that much of a difference, if we're ignoring power or the DCT.

I'll also add that Hurcan feels like a fast GTI, btw. Total freaking disappointment, aside from the V10. Numb steering, no brake feel, and just overall sloppy.

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mazeroni Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Series 10 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,117 Thanks: 600 Thanked 1,017 Times in 512 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This will sound moronic... So last year I did that Extreme Experience driving event at NCM Motorsports Park and one of the cars I drove was a GT3. I remember taking to the car immediately because of its feedback and the speed of the rack. After getting back into the FRS, I didn't immediately regret not being back in the GT3. Now obviously at 10/10ths the FRS would be doing 3/10ths of what a GT3 is capable of, but just around town at normal speeds and through corners the FR-S is really good for 10% of the price (except the clutch, as others point out.) I honestly can't imagine that if I was blindfold I would notice that much of a difference, if we're ignoring power or the DCT. I'll also add that Hurcan feels like a fast GTI, btw. Total freaking disappointment, aside from the V10. Numb steering, no brake feel, and just overall sloppy. Last edited by mazeroni; 04-08-2019 at 02:45 PM.

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suzyj Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Drives: 2018 86 GTS Location: Western Australia Posts: 89 Thanks: 48 Thanked 143 Times in 50 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I thought the steering was so good because the motor was wound with linear crystal oxygen free wire, and it was assembled under a pyramid, with a carefully calibrated amount of algument juice added. It’s not rocket science. Triumph have been doing it for ages. [ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2QFxoDHU9o[/ame]

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