More confirmation from Toyota on next gen 86

[humfrz]

I figure my timing will be about right.

By the time ICE powered transportation is "out", I will be ready for an electric mode of transportation. A 40 mile range ain't all bad, that will get me to the doctors office, the pharmacy, the grocery store and back.





humfrz

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

I saw the picture and would have bet money on it that this is a @humfrz post.

It would have been my post about Hum!

All irrelevant anyway since as soon as we have all electric cars nobody will be actually driving them. Who cares if you have an all electric autonomous car?
"Alexa (yes it will drive then) hit the twisties and ignore the government beamed speed restriction devices".

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I figure my timing will be about right.

By the time ICE powered transportation is "out", I will be ready for an electric mode of transportation.

I would hope more like this

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

I would hope more like this

Well the colour is great!

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

I would hope more like this

Well, that's nice, but, I'm afraid I'll need four wheels for balance -


humfrz

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, that's nice, but, I'm afraid I'll need four wheels for balance -


humfrz

They make everything now

[Adam_L]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

And what if you don't have another car? Half the people on here now can hardly afford the one they have.

That's the kicker. There isn't one vehicle that can do it all, good MPG 40+, good versatility , good reliability.

The best 2-vehicle combo is one vehicle that has the versatility / power ( example, is a certain truck … or possibly a SUV) , the second vehicle is a higher MPG car (hopefully with some decent versatility ). This way you cover pretty much all your bases, depending upon the day, take the vehicle that makes the best sense for the job to do that particular day.

The ultimate would be a Full size truck / hybrid , that has like 350 torque , 50-100 electric range , 1/2 cylinder shut down when cruising / around town . A car /truck manufacture could build this in 2020 …. but no manufacture really wants to step up their game and do the right thing. Tundra's … and Tacoma's don't even have 1/2 cylinder shut down, and it's already 2019 …. yet Honda Pilot's were doing this over 10 years ago!!! Wake up Toyota, time to recognize , people won't continue to just buy your product you need to step up your game and offer something substantially more, go further on less energy, that's what it's all about Yoda. Don't go the way of the Darkside…. and that crap new Supra/ BMW giddy-up. Recognize, and realize the facts.

[ermax]

I believe GM was first at this gimmick with a Cadillac in the early 90s. My Suburban does the cylinder shut down stuff too. It’s good for creating a vacuum in the disabled cylinders which pulls oil past the rings and then burns it off when the cylinder reactivates. Eventually the rings stick and then it burns oil all the time. A lot of people disable AFM and say it has almost no impact on MPG. Not sure the tiny bit of gas saved is worth the oil burned. Not all GMs end up burning oil though. Mine doesn’t but apparently it’s common.

[Adam_L]

Gotcha, I gotta talk to some Honda techs, see what the 411 is on that cylinder shut down that they've had for over 10 years now.

Maybe Toyota hasn't gone to it, given what info you said ermax. It could very well be. To Toyota, it hasn't proven itself …. so why go to it, burn oil , consume possibly more in the long run.

Still, Toyota needs to shift gears, and apply some of that well known info they've established in the Prius…. and let their other vehicles benefit as well, trucks, SUV's … all of them. I remember walking on a Toyota dealer lot about 10-11 years ago, and the higher up there (not just a salesman, but I'd want to say it was the dealer manager) said that "in 4 years from now, Toyota will have every vehicle in gas and hybrid form to choose from". He was dead wrong, someone fed him some misinformation, that would have been by 2012-'13.

[gravitylover]

Yeah that cylinder deactivation thing was a problem for Dodge with the Hemi for a while. The additional sudden load as 4 cylinders woke up and tossed a couple hundred hp into the system they were snapping timing chains.

[g e]

Wifey has small SUV and I have BRZ

Good combo. The seats in her Lexus are pretty nice. But I really like the Alacantra seats in the Limited model. Super comfy

[venturaII]

Originally Posted by ermax

I believe GM was first at this gimmick with a Cadillac in the early 90s. My Suburban does the cylinder shut down stuff too. It’s good for creating a vacuum in the disabled cylinders which pulls oil past the rings and then burns it off when the cylinder reactivates. Eventually the rings stick and then it burns oil all the time. A lot of people disable AFM and say it has almost no impact on MPG. Not sure the tiny bit of gas saved is worth the oil burned. Not all GMs end up burning oil though. Mine doesn’t but apparently it’s common.

You're about a decade late...Caddy had their original V8-6-4 motor debut around 1980, and it was pretty dismal back then, too. Thankfully it could be disabled with a single connector, which most dealerships did when the customers came in complaining about how much it sucked. The motor acted like a normal 140bhp 368 at that point. Still dismal, but smoother.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by venturaII

You're about a decade late...Caddy had their original V8-6-4 motor debut around 1980, and it was pretty dismal back then, too. Thankfully it could be disabled with a single connector, which most dealerships did when the customers came in complaining about how much it sucked. The motor acted like a normal 140bhp 368 at that point. Still dismal, but smoother.

I'll take ya'll back even further to the old hit-and-miss engines that were used on our farm.

Yep, variable displacement fer sure -


humfrz

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I'll take ya'll back even further to the old hit-and-miss engines that were used on our farm.

Yep, variable displacement fer sure -

Wedge a stick in the gubner.