Failure After J02 Recall - Discussion Threads

[ORrooster]

That work area is disgusting... maybe your pickup got clogged up with leaves or feathers.

WTF ??



Tech says, "the motor is junk".

I say, "It is now that you fucking touched it."



That looks pretty clearly to be the incorrect sealer.



That guy is a slob and his work is a reflection of himself.

If Toyota was supposed to send out somebody to tear down the motor, them doing it before they showed up indicates to me that they were trying to hide something.

[ORrooster]

Originally Posted by ermax

Not true, it's a pain in the ass because it's covered in packing material that needs to be cleaned and repacked which is just another source of failure. I'd guess 2.5 hours additional labor speaking of my own personal experience doing this job.

Much more of a pain in the ass than the entire front cover and mating surface, cam caps, valve covers, and high pressure fuel pump which are being scraped, cleaned, and resealed? I think the bulk of the work has been done to this point.

Let's call your 2.5 hours labor 4.0, even 5.0 + intake, head and other related gaskets... to save in the neighborhood of what, 20.0+ labor, a complete engine gskt kit all the fluids and sealer down the road... even maybe?? It might be worth it in the long run. Particularly if there is any suspect area of leakage during/prior to the campaign repairs. Come back in 6 months with a headgasket leak and you already know what the dealer is going to say,"We didn't touch the headgaskets so we are not obligated to offer any assistance. Just coincidental."

I am not aware of a big problem with these engine having headgasket leaks. Just playing devil's advocate for the sake of discussion. Subaru is well know for their headgaskets, and it isn't about how long-lasting and bullet-proof they are.

Originally Posted by ermax

There is a reason Toyota altered the instructions in the service manual to avoid removing the heads.

And, I believe that reason to be the reason virtually all corporations make decisions. Their cost analysis.

It sure wasn't to make the technician's job any easier.

Send every dealer an SST kit along with the bill. Reduce the labor time and save on all the gaskets not required for this less involved repair.
= Easy Math

Originally Posted by ermax

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

I do love to argue, er... I mean, discuss. There is no logical argument that is going to overcome that. I've ever let that stop me. Why start now ?

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by ermax

Wow a success story! Seems like an autox would be a good shake down. I hope you're in the clear.

That is NOT a success story!

[ORrooster]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

I think you've misunderstood our purpose.

Apparently.

I guess that I do see purpose on steering your fellow 86ers toward a dealership that is going to do quality work and stand behind it. Misery loves company though so let them walk on into that facility that you did and maybe after that tech does a few he'll have a better grasp on it. Of course, the other side of that will be that if he does start doing a few right and they don't get smoked, it will be that much easier for him to point his failure at your specific motor since "he's done so many successfully."

How about people report in with success stories and name those dealers so folks can find their way into a good dealer and we don't have to hurt any feelings (businesses don't have feelings).

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

This is to discuss our experience, this is not meant as the bat cave for our crime fighting syndicate.

You funny. Where is the crime fighting emoji??

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by ORrooster

And, I believe that reason to be the reason virtually all corporations make decisions. Their cost analysis.

It sure wasn't to make the technician's job any easier.

Send every dealer an SST kit along with the bill. Reduce the labor time and save on all the gaskets not required for this less involved repair.
= Easy Math

When I was a tech(motorcycles not cars) I would much prefer to not have to pull the heads if it wasn't required and have used the old, air pressure to hold the valves up trick on multiple occasions. It is easier that way and I have done it at home. Usually when you do a recall order you are asked not to deviate from the repair unless you find an issue that needs addressed.

Yamaha had a valve recall that required the head be pulled and they didn't even send us head gaskets

[ermax]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

That is NOT a success story!

Compared to the spun rod bearing stories it is. It’s probably the most successful report so far. Still a pathetic experience though.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by ermax

Compared to the spun rod bearing stories it is. It’s probably the most successful report so far. Still a pathetic experience though.

There are hundreds if not thousands of recalls performed to an adequate standard without oil spills, leaks, loose nuts, bolts, or connectors, let alone total engine failure.

Any of the above is unacceptable.

Not everybody feels the need to broadcast to the internet every little thing that happens in their lives.

[Ultramaroon]

I like the no-issues thread. Third post in "They left my evap solenoid unplugged..."

[msaikhan]

Hey Guys, i just saw that my oil check tube is filled with sealant on the bottom. I'm guessing the tech broke it, but just stuck it back on with sealant. Can that get into the oil and cause damage?

[WNDSRFR]

Originally Posted by msaikhan

Hey Guys, i just saw that my oil check tube is filled with sealant on the bottom. I'm guessing the tech broke it, but just stuck it back on with sealant. Can that get into the oil and cause damage?

Does it look like this?
This is how mine came back after the recall. I don't think it's normal.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by msaikhan

Hey Guys, i just saw that my oil check tube is filled with sealant on the bottom. I'm guessing the tech broke it, but just stuck it back on with sealant. Can that get into the oil and cause damage?

No, but it's a shit job. My guess is that the hole in the timing cover was also damaged.

[Teseo]

Damn.... im scare

[ermax]

I’d have to look at the parts list but maybe the kit doesn’t come with a new oring and it’s getting damaged on the way in or out so they are just improvising.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by msaikhan

Hey Guys, i just saw that my oil check tube is filled with sealant on the bottom. I'm guessing the tech broke it, but just stuck it back on with sealant. Can that get into the oil and cause damage?

Oh, if it's not leaking, I wouldn't worry about it.

However, you may wish to take a date stamped picture of it, just in case it does start leaking.


humfrz