How do you guys feel about lifted trucks?

[x808drifter]

Originally Posted by qcbaker

So... your position is that the environmentalists are actually worse than the coal rollers?

Okay I guess...

No, his position/opinion is that the "environmentalists" are the REASON for the coal rollers.

By way of giving other people shit about their polluting cars.
(All cars, not just coal rolling diesel bros)

[ScoobsMcGee]

Chastising some random person for the vehicle they drive is a douche move.

Rolling coal on a specific vehicle type because of assumptions about the driver is also a douche move.

It doesn't matter which is a reaction and which group started it. Stop being douches.

[qcbaker]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

No, his position/opinion is that the "environmentalists" are the REASON for the coal rollers.

By way of giving other people shit about their polluting cars.
(All cars, not just coal rolling diesel bros)

If I do something bad, and then a person calls me out on it, and I respond by doing something even worse just to spite them, the person who called me out is not the REASON I did something worse. I am the reason; because I'm the one acting like a child.

[Impureclient]

When I feel about trucks I never touch their bumpers first because that would be rude. Many police pulling people over make that mistake and do so without the owners consent.
I always sit in them for a while and get to know them and then I slowly start feeling the buttons inside and eventually I stick my fingers in the tailpipe to see if it's clean.
I've personally never felt around a lifted truck since the owners are usually very possessive and don't like people touching their truck undersides which is the only parts available to feel
since they are so high up.

[x808drifter]

Please see scoobs post.

If you (hybrid/electric driver) gives anyone shit about what they are driving.
You are a douche.

If the guy who was given shit for what he drives by a hybrid/electric driver in spite goes out and buys a big ass truck to roll coal, he too is a douche.

Both are assholes and to quote George Carlin, "ought to be locked into portable toilets and set on fire."

Also just to clear shit up.
We are talking about self righteous hybrid/electric drivers giving EVERYONE shit about what they drive, not just the coal rollers.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee

Chastising some random person for the vehicle they drive is a douche move.

Rolling coal on a specific vehicle type because of assumptions about the driver is also a douche move.

It doesn't matter which is a reaction and which group started it. Stop being douches.

Hey, at least everybody here is relatively on the same side.
We can't even talk about colour, drop, transmission, FI, failure modes, or even tire pressure without people forming groups so we can at least focus on a common foe.

[qcbaker]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

Please see scoobs post.

If you (hybrid/electric driver) gives anyone shit about what they are driving.
You are a douche.

If the guy who was given shit for what he drives by a hybrid/electric driver in spite goes out and buys a big ass truck to roll coal, he too is a douche.

Both are assholes and to quote George Carlin, "ought to be locked into portable toilets and set on fire."

Also just to clear shit up.
We are talking about self righteous hybrid/electric drivers giving EVERYONE shit about what they drive, not just the coal rollers.

My argument isn't that environmentalists giving people shit for driving big trucks isn't douchey. My argument is that it's absurd to "blame" the coal-rolling on the environmentalists. Its not their fault the person rolling coal is a manbaby who responds to criticism by doubling down on whatever they were criticized on.

The environmentalist talking shit about polluters at least has a valid point, even if he's being a bit of a douche about it. The dude rolling coal is just being a douche for the sake of being a douche. To treat the two as equal, or to blame the coal-roller's behavior on the environmentalist for having talked shit is ridiculous.

[ScoobsMcGee]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Hey, at least everybody here is relatively on the same side.
We can't even talk about colour, drop, transmission, FI, failure modes, or even tire pressure without people forming groups so we can at least focus on a common foe.

Color isn't spelled with a "u."

[x808drifter]

Originally Posted by qcbaker

My argument isn't that environmentalists giving people shit for driving big trucks isn't douchey. My argument is that it's absurd to "blame" the coal-rolling on the environmentalists. Its not their fault the person rolling coal is a manbaby who responds to criticism by doubling down on whatever they were criticized on.

The environmentalist talking shit about polluters at least has a valid point, even if he's being a bit of a douche about it. The dude rolling coal is just being a douche for the sake of being a douche. To treat the two as equal, or to blame the coal-roller's behavior on the environmentalist for having talked shit is ridiculous.

1: Go back and re-read what was typed.
We are talking about the assholes who give EVERYBODY shit for what they drive, NOT JUST THE COAL ROLLERS.

2: And nobody is disagreeing with you. In fact, we actually are agreeing with you.

I feel like I almost need to draw a picture so you can actually understand what specific things are being discussed here.


I originally tried to explain that your conclusion on what extrashaky posted was wrong.
And that he meant something else.
Not defend it, or say he was right, just point out that you came to the wrong conclusion about what was posted.
Kind of like how you've done in each post since.

I give up already.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee

Color isn't spelled with a "u."

Don't be a doche!

[StraightOuttaCanadaEh]

So the black clouds coming out of the exhaust is something the vehicle is specifically modified for? Holy crap, if you need any more evidence than th... How are these trucks not pulled over, impounded and crushed immediately? So a cop drives behind one, gets absolutely covered in soot and believes it's a normal occurrence??? Wtf is going on here?

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by qcbaker

So... your position is that the environmentalists are actually worse than the coal rollers?

No. Reading comprehension obviously isn't one of your strengths.

[qcbaker]

Woah, careful you don't fall off that high horse my dude.

Originally Posted by x808drifter

1: Go back and re-read what was typed.
We are talking about the assholes who give EVERYBODY shit for what they drive, NOT JUST THE COAL ROLLERS.

Neat? You responded to my post, which was specifically about coal rollers. You're the one that started with the "everyone" thing, so I would say you're the one who needs to go re-read what was typed lol.

2: And nobody is disagreeing with you. In fact, we actually are agreeing with you.

If by "agreeing" you mean responding to my post by calling both people douches instead of responding to my actual point in any way, sure. Funny way to agree with someone, but do you I guess?

I feel like I almost need to draw a picture so you can actually understand what specific things are being discussed here.

Oh yes, please do. Your clearly superior intellect is too much for my feeble mind.

All of this is beside the point, so lets get back to the real topic of discussion:

I originally tried to explain that your conclusion on what extrashaky posted was wrong.
And that he meant something else.
Not defend it, or say he was right, just point out that you came to the wrong conclusion about what was posted.

So, because you don't understand the concept of implications, you assume I must not be able to either? And you say I'm the one who lacks reading comprehension.

He said he "blame[s] preachy hypermilers in Priuses for a large part of the brodozer problem".

The operative word here is "blame", which (as I'm sure a cultured intellectual such as yourself already knows) means to assign responsibility for a fault or wrong. So seems to me like extrashaky's post is implying that the environmentalists are responsible for the fact that dudes roll coal, that they are the real reason coal-rollers do what they do, which would imply that he thinks they're worse.

It just seems like you wanna have a pointless semantics argument over my use of the words "worse than" when shaky didn't explicitly say that because you're apparently unable to use any sort of deductive reasoning or, to use your words, reading comprehension to figure out what his last two sentences imply.

And even if he doesn't literally think they're worse, it doesn't really matter, because the main argument is the exact same: That the environmentalists are to blame for the coal-rollers' behavior. Which is the part I disagree with, regardless of which class of people shaky really thinks is "worse". And if shaky wants to come in here and discuss that with me, I'm more than willing.

I give up already.

[qcbaker]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

No. Reading comprehension obviously isn't one of your strengths.

"reading comprehension" again.

If you wanna have an actual discussion, replace "he" with "you" in what I said my other post, then respond:

He said he "blame[s] preachy hypermilers in Priuses for a large part of the brodozer problem".

The operative word here is "blame", which (as I'm sure a cultured intellectual such as yourself already knows) means to assign responsibility for a fault or wrong. So seems to me like extrashaky's post is implying that the environmentalists are responsible for the fact that dudes roll coal, that they are the real reason coal-rollers do what they do, which would imply that he thinks they're worse.

It just seems like you wanna have a pointless semantics argument over my use of the words "worse than" when shaky didn't explicitly say that because you're apparently unable to use any sort of deductive reasoning or, to use your words, reading comprehension to figure out what his last two sentences imply.

And even if he doesn't literally think they're worse, it doesn't really matter, because the main argument is the exact same: That the environmentalists are to blame for the coal-rollers' behavior. Which is the part I disagree with, regardless of which class of people shaky really thinks is "worse". And if shaky wants to come in here and discuss that with me, I'm more than willing.