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needs moar neg camber up front. so frustrating.
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The Ecoboost Mustang has decent throttle response in sport mode, but suffers from turbo lag. The same can be said for the current generation Civic Si. The 2016 Camaro SS has a huge delay in touring and sport modes, until you depress the throttle more than 1/4 of the way. It honestly felt like it had a turbo. Track mode in the Camaro felt similiar to the twins and was the mode that I would always drive in. |
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Absolutely agree. My previous car was drive by cable it was seemingly instantaneous on throttle response compared to my brz. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Me neither, I wouldn't buy them myself. I was answering objectively
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wrong gear or in the torque dip. |
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It is for smooth operation and economy. If you mash the pedal from idle on a cable you have 100% throttle. Do the same with electronic and it slowly feeds in the power, it might only give you 50% throttle, even though you have rhe pedal to the floor. This might explain it better. https://www.carmodsaustralia.com.au/...8-10/Liberty-0
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Can it be improved with a tune?
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Here are the details and a video of the fire: https://www.motor1.com/news/238433/a...ar-fire-video/ Yes Subaru or Mazda are cheaper brands and in many cases will use a simpler manufacturing approach, but I would never imagine a press car from them catching fire even if it is not "officially" a production car. And even on the performance area and the slalom results posted a few pages back, it looks that the approach followed by the 86/BRZ works really good even with the stock tires! |
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The majority of the weight gain in modern cars is in the physical dimensions. Tech/crash standards/emissions are overrated when it comes to why sporty cars are gaining weight imo. Look at the 2001 M3 vs. the 2019 M2. They have roughly the same physical dimensions and weigh roughly the same while the M2 adds the weight of turbochargers/intercooling. The"extra" weight of modern crash standards, emissions, and comfort items appears almost negligible.
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A 4360 lb $85k Alfa Stelvio QV with its’ 505 HP Ferrari derived v6, carbon ceramic brakes, and active differential has better performance than 90% of the sports cars on the road. All that gear sounds racy doesn’t it? It’s an absolute beast and a great car for a long highway drive. The Stelvio QV and many other heavy GTs like it would trounce many lighter weight sports cars at tracks like Big Willow for a lap or five. Does this make it a good sports car? • At the Auto-X or closed road course is it a good choice? I’d say not at all. Even though it’s ludicrously fast, the cost keeping a car this heavy and complex lapping reliably would chew through any personal or team budget. Generally it’s rich assholes that take big exotic GTs to the track (no offense to rich assholes, who one day I aspire to be =P ) • On the road is the Stelvio a great weekend canyon carver? It doesn't change direction, communicate, or engage the driver like a sub 3000 lb, $27k Twin or Miata. Take a step up to Alfa 4C, Cayman, or Elise and the gap gets even wider. Still, the Stelvio QV has greater measurable performance than any of these cars. I’ve driven them all. Yes, weight still matters for sports cars, because a good sports car is the sum of many measurable indicators (not just speed and acceleration in a straight line (exc drag racing.) GTs are generally not designed for and are not good for motorsports. That’s why GT is another subjective classification of car. Sure we can overcome weight with power, torque, complexity, and money, but why bother when you can “simplicate and add lightness.” with your choice - RIP Colin Chapman ftw. |
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