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The 2019 Corolla now released the Hatch version with a 2.0 and it packs 168hp. Our cars are still at 200HP. We need to see a bump in HP and Torque. This is BS!
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I can't speak to your opinion of enthusiasts - I think we all enjoy our toys with the level of knowledge and money we have at the time and at times there's lots of us with little of both - but generally, time changes both as well. I think the turbo needs to stay off the table - leave that to the enthusiast to install. However I think a simple refresh, or even a different trim line that gives the community 'enough' of a performance bump without a full chassis redesign to accommodate it. 1: Possibly bump displacement to 2.2L engine. (but then it won't have a bore/stroke of 86/86 - not sure if that's a problem for marketing) 2: Better flowing header/exhaust. (eliminate torque curve) 3: Better tires. I think a 40hp/30tq increase while still meeting CA emissions and CAFE restrictions would be enough to quiet the vast majority of dissent and reinvigorate enthusiasm. The problem I see, however, is that Toyota would unlikely be able to sell it for <28k and once you're in the 30k+ range - there's a lot of other really fun (and turbo) cars.
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11-21-2018, 02:28 PM | #105 |
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It's already in production, but sadly they went electric...
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Another idea is that if Subaru doesn't want the car anymore, Toyota could re-release it with one of their 2.5L inline engines like a tweaked variation of the 5AR-FE which has D4-S. They could probably do something like 200hp/185Tq on 87 octane - then let the owner add 20+ on 91 with a tune. In fact, one thing I would like is a FRS that didn't require premium fuel - TBH that would really appeal to me!
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I doubt a 40HP increase would satisfy many much less a majority. It would just up the number of what the car "needs" to the throngs that just read specs and have never even sat in one much less drove it. Hell I doubt it will even satisfy many of the more power crowd here since the jump off point for the "least" they want seems to be the rather random 300HP.
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I get that the Primacy tires are on it because they're long-lasting, all-around tires with low friction that enable a bit of tail end slide, but aren't we past that fun marketing gimmick at this point? I mean, the BRZ suspension retune last year went a ways toward downplaying the tail-end slide. Why not just put proper tires on it out the door? |
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Im pretty sure they're the standard tire on many of the 'sport' trim Toyotas. |
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