Anyone runs 17x9.5 +45 wheels?

[stlgrym3]

What tire size are you running? With aftermarket coilovers will there be any rubbing issue with inside of the front fenders?

[Leonardo]

Not a lot of them available. The offset range that fits for 17's is the same that will fit with 18's. (+48 to +35 - give or take a few mm.) You will need coilovers to fit 9.5" wide wheels. (or run a low offset and have lots of poke - like +30 to +35) Rubbing: it depends on what tire, how low the coils are set, and how much camber.


There are fewer tire sizes available in 17. So you are limited to 245/40, 255/40, and I guess 265/40 (as they are the same diameter as a 265/35/18 that is popular) Though I have never seen anyone run a 265/40/17.


17x9.5 threads

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54427


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56142




I spent hours reading about suspension parts, coilovers, wheels, and tires; before making my buying decisions.


Are you wanting to get wheels, tires, coils and any other supporting mods at the same time?

[stlgrym3]

Too aggressive for my liking. I went conservative and got a set of 17x8 +45 RPF1s with 235/40/17 tires. I had 17x9 +35 before and did not like the front wheels poking out.

[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by stlgrym3

Too aggressive for my liking. I went conservative and got a set of 17x8 +45 RPF1s with 235/40/17 tires. I had 17x9 +35 before and did not like the front wheels poking out.

I understand. 17x8 +45 is a great size if your are looking to keep close to the stock specs. And a 235/40 fits it nicely.


My first set of wheels was conservative. 17x7.5 +38, which coincidentally have the same poke compared to stock as a 17x8 +45.

[stlgrym3]

Originally Posted by Leonardo

I understand. 17x8 +45 is a great size if your are looking to keep close to the stock specs. And a 235/40 fits it nicely.


My first set of wheels was conservative. 17x7.5 +38, which coincidentally have the same poke compared to stock as a 17x8 +45.

thanks, another reason why i went conservative is i just recently installed RCE Yellow on stock struts, and absolutely love the ride. i do not want to pay for coilovers to accommodate the more aggressive setup.

[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by stlgrym3

thanks, another reason why i went conservative is i just recently installed RCE Yellow on stock struts, and absolutely love the ride. i do not want to pay for coilovers to accommodate the more aggressive setup.

I get that. Those are good springs. The drop amount will function well with the stock shocks. I drove 70000 miles with stock shocks and 1" drop springs. I had eibach pro kit springs, which are cheaper and have a progressive spring rate compared to RCE yellows.

[EndlessAzure]

What camber are you running up front?


I have 17x9+35 all around (probably between 1.25 and 1.5 inch drop), and I haven't had what I would perceive as "poke." I've run -1.8 deg before and now -3.0 deg camber /w aftermarket coilovers. You can look at my Instagram below and find pictures of the side profile of the car. Any images before around February 2018, I was running -1.8 deg.


You can get -1.7 deg with just camber bolts. That will probably get rid of the poke you saw, unless you want to maintain a mild alignment

[stlgrym3]

Originally Posted by EndlessAzure

What camber are you running up front?


I have 17x9+35 all around, and I haven't had what I would perceive as "poke." I've run -1.8 deg before and now -3.0 deg camber /w aftermarket coilovers.


You can get -1.7 deg with just camber bolts. That will probably get rid of the poke you saw, unless you want to maintain a mild alignment

when i had my 17x9 +35, i was using Apexi EXS N1 coilovers, did not use any camber tools. as far as i remember front was always in range compare to stock specs. you're right, maybe some negative camber would've gotten rid of the pokiness, but oh well, i just think unless you FI this car, otherwise there's no reason to have big and fatty tires given how weak the engine is. it's supposed to be a nimble sports car. oh crap, did i just opened up a can of worms? LOL

[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by stlgrym3

when i had my 17x9 +35, i was using Apexi EXS N1 coilovers, did not use any camber tools. as far as i remember front was always in range compare to stock specs. you're right, maybe some negative camber would've gotten rid of the pokiness, but oh well, i just think unless you FI this car, otherwise there's no reason to have big and fatty tires given how weak the engine is. it's supposed to be a nimble sports car. oh crap, did i just opened up a can of worms? LOL

Yes, a bit of camber in the front will help with 17x9 +35 wheels. I thought my 18x9 +32 wheels fit nicely with just a set of camber bolts set at -1.4

FI is cool. I have different priorities.

I have (as you put it) a"weak" stock engine, that is plenty powerful enough for me. And I am also one of the guys with an AT.

My car is supposed to be what I want it to be and nothing more.

I have 245/35 all around on 18x9 +30 front and 18x9 +27 rear. I was running these with springs and -1.4 front and -2 rear. But now I've got stiffer coils and more camber.

To me owning the car is just a fun learning process: I have had fun and learned a bunch by doing all my own mods.

[rt]

I'm running 17x9.5 +45 TE37 Sagas wrapped in 255/40 Yokohama AD08R with 3mm spacers all around. No issues rubbing outside but they rub inside at full lock even with the spacers, but it's really not an issue. Camber specs are -3.3F/-2.4R so no poke at all. As for the "big and fatty" tires, I like the wider contact patch on the track even if sacrifices some acceleration and weight.

Pictures (the bronze set):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/raytra...57683606996336

[EndlessAzure]

Originally Posted by stlgrym3

when i had my 17x9 +35, i was using Apexi EXS N1 coilovers, did not use any camber tools. as far as i remember front was always in range compare to stock specs. you're right, maybe some negative camber would've gotten rid of the pokiness, but oh well, i just think unless you FI this car, otherwise there's no reason to have big and fatty tires given how weak the engine is. it's supposed to be a nimble sports car. oh crap, did i just opened up a can of worms? LOL

Haha I agree. It's a fun and nimble car to whip around.


I run 9 inch wheel at the track with an appropriate tire. I don't mind being able pulling some extra G's over tires I can put on a 7 or 8 inch wheel, and there are still plenty of chances to lose traction (from experience). Although there is opportunity to form bad habits, it's also a little more forgiving to learn with a larger tire (increased grip, greater time with grip before overheating the tire)

I think most people who run a 9 inch wheel for performance application just want to take advantage of as much grip you can get on the car without giving up too much nibleness/agility like you said.

[stlgrym3]

changed my mind and went with 17x9 +35 Enkei RPF1 instead. 17x8 is too much stock-like after thinking it through. i also purchased some front camber bolts to help with the poke. what's the best camber angle for the front to get rid of the poke while maintain the straight look?

P.S. now i have to refuse delivery on the 235/40/17 tires i ordered and order 245/40/17 instead.

[EndlessAzure]

Originally Posted by stlgrym3

changed my mind and went with 17x9 +35 Enkei RPF1 instead. 17x8 is too much stock-like after thinking it through. i also purchased some front camber bolts to help with the poke. what's the best camber angle for the front to get rid of the poke while maintain the straight look?

P.S. now i have to refuse delivery on the 235/40/17 tires i ordered and order 245/40/17 instead.

Yesss. Come to the dark side.


I think you could have run 235/40/17. It's on the smaller side, but they are not considered stretched on 9 inch wheels. 245 is perfect though.


Just remember to dial in some camber to get fitment to your desire. My gut says at least -1 degree of camber, if not a little more. A new adapation/hosting of the to the autofitment calculator has been pushed lately that can give you an idea: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130834

[stlgrym3]

Originally Posted by EndlessAzure

Yesss. Come to the dark side.


I think you could have run 235/40/17. It's on the smaller side, but they are not considered stretched on 9 inch wheels. 245 is perfect though.


Just remember to dial in some camber to get fitment to your desire. My gut says at least -1 degree of camber, if not a little more. A new adapation/hosting of the to the autofitment calculator has been pushed lately that can give you an idea: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130834

what about rear? according to the simulator, without any adjustment it's basically flushed with the fender (4mm past fender).