Used vs. New Header - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

junior-subie · 10-10-2018, 09:50 AM

Hi all,

New to the forum and wanted to get some advice from you all -- I'm looking to get a JDL UEL Catless Header for my BRZ. I found someone who is selling it for $500, but it has 20K miles on it. According to the seller though, the header is flawless. Should I go for it or buy a brand new one for $750? Just a little worried since the header has 20K miles on it.

Thanks in advance!

ShawnP19 · 10-10-2018, 10:36 AM

in my opinion, it's essentially just a pipe. If it isn't crushed, then what's there to worry about? Maybe a little bit of carbon build up, but won't be anything significant after 20k miles. Maybe a few external scrapes? That doesn't impact the function of the piping. I bought my headers used, and no ragerts. You have my vote to go for it, and put that $250 savings towards other mods.

bfrank1972 · 10-10-2018, 10:48 AM

Yup just a pipe - if it's catted then check the condition of the converter (I bought mine used with a cat), but otherwise as long as it's a good brand (JDL is excellent), welds look good, no damage in general (scrapes/rubs should be fine) then go for it.

Lantanafrs2 · 10-10-2018, 10:50 AM

If you can easily afford new, buy new. Otherwise a used name brand (not ebay) header will be just fine.

WNDSRFR · 10-10-2018, 11:15 AM

A new header becomes a used header as soon as you buy it.

Summerwolf · 10-10-2018, 11:15 AM

Keep in mind you'll want new gaskets. They're cheap but something to consider.

Also might have to replace the hardware on the used parts, again cheap but not included normally.

junior-subie · 10-10-2018, 11:39 AM

Thank you everyone for your input. I think I'll go ahead and buy the used header and put the rest of the money towards other mods

Vital · 10-10-2018, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by junior-subie

Thank you everyone for your input. I think I'll go ahead and buy the used header and put the rest of the money towards other mods

Put it towards a tune as you will need it

Lantanafrs2 · 10-10-2018, 02:34 PM

If you need oem gaskets. Buy them through subaru. Much cheaper than Toyota.

robotleader · 10-10-2018, 02:46 PM

new gaskets are a must.

x808drifter · 10-10-2018, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

If you need oem gaskets. Buy them through subaru. Much cheaper than Toyota.

Highly dependent on location.

Lantanafrs2 · 10-10-2018, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by x808drifter

Highly dependent on location.

Good point. I know Toyota wanted like 75 for all 3 and Subaru was less than half of that, at least where I am. Pays to check.

jjorgen · 10-11-2018, 09:08 AM

I would almost venture out on a limb and say to get the Grimm speed gaskets or vibrant gaskets I have had pretty good luck with them.

D-rek07 · 10-11-2018, 11:19 AM

I bought the Grimmspeed gaskets for my JDL UEL catless header. Absolutely not leaks. Just make sure you tighten them to the proper torque

10-10-2018, 09:50 AM	#1
junior-subie Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Drives: 2017 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Boston, MA Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Used vs. New Header Hi all, New to the forum and wanted to get some advice from you all -- I'm looking to get a JDL UEL Catless Header for my BRZ. I found someone who is selling it for $500, but it has 20K miles on it. According to the seller though, the header is flawless. Should I go for it or buy a brand new one for $750? Just a little worried since the header has 20K miles on it. Thanks in advance!

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bfrank1972 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Argento Location: Westport,CT Posts: 1,855 Thanks: 517 Thanked 1,041 Times in 616 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Yup just a pipe - if it's catted then check the condition of the converter (I bought mine used with a cat), but otherwise as long as it's a good brand (JDL is excellent), welds look good, no damage in general (scrapes/rubs should be fine) then go for it.

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Summerwolf Panda Trueno Join Date: Jan 2015 Drives: No twin now. Location: North Indiana Posts: 3,349 Thanks: 2,113 Thanked 2,409 Times in 1,332 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Keep in mind you'll want new gaskets. They're cheap but something to consider. Also might have to replace the hardware on the used parts, again cheap but not included normally.

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junior-subie Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Drives: 2017 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Boston, MA Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thank you everyone for your input. I think I'll go ahead and buy the used header and put the rest of the money towards other mods

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jjorgen Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FR-S Location: Lehigh Acres, FL Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would almost venture out on a limb and say to get the Grimm speed gaskets or vibrant gaskets I have had pretty good luck with them.

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D-rek07 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Orange County Posts: 144 Thanks: 10 Thanked 45 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I bought the Grimmspeed gaskets for my JDL UEL catless header. Absolutely not leaks. Just make sure you tighten them to the proper torque

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