What torque and horsepower mean for cars

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

and

Do I ever sound condescending?*


*This means that I'm talking down to you.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Yep. When the guy that asked about how to use them and then shot down every single response starts a new thread you pretty much know what will go down.

I guess that proper use of paddle shifters and HP (but not torque) are essential when pulling out of parking spots.

The dude is either a full fledged troll, a 12 year old that hasn't even driven a car yet or just a jackass. I haven't decided which yet. What I do know is that I feel incredibly sorry for anybody working in the education field these days.

IDK he does mention some concepts that are very difficult for a 12 year old to understand and comprehend, he must be at least 18, but still completely clueless about anything mechanical......

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

*This means that I'm talking down to you.

I guess it's just a matter of convention.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I guess it's just a matter of convention.


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Sort of nice to be on the bottom for a change.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

IDK he does mention some concepts that are very difficult for a 12 year old to understand and comprehend, he must be at least 18, but still completely clueless about anything mechanical......

Well, the OP did say he took physics in HS, but didn't say whether or not he passed the course -


humfrz

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Sort of nice to be on the bottom for a change.

Yep, like they say on the Islands - "the higher the monkey climbs up the coconut tree, the more of his ass you see" -




humfrz

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Yep, like they say on the Islands - "the higher the monkey climbs up the coconut tree, the more of his ass you see" -

I don't understand the logic.
The higher the monkey climbs the smaller the ass gets. I'm suggesting it's actually the converse that's true: "the lower the monkey climbs down the coconut tree, the more of his ass you see".


Not that I've thought about this a lot.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I don't understand the logic.
The higher the monkey climbs the smaller the ass gets. I'm suggesting it's actually the converse that's true: "the lower the monkey climbs down the coconut tree, the more of his ass you see".


Not that I've thought about this a lot.

Oh, maybe that's the way it is down under -




humfrz

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Yep, like they say on the Islands - "the higher the monkey climbs up the coconut tree, the more of his ass you see" -

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[Johnny Horsepower]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You have said several times that torque does not mean anything
i.e. "It basically says it's power that moves the car, not torque per se, which is what I had concluded as well"

How is that saying that torque doesn't mean anything? I'm saying it's not torque alone that matters, but torque times RPMs.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You are still attempting to think of "power" as something separate from torque. It is not separate, it is the result of torque and RPMs.

I don't think of them as separate. The internet thinks of them as separate, e.g., horsepower sells cars but torque wins races, or torque gets you moving but horsepower keeps you moving, or horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you move it.

I didn't understand why there were two different things at work, and when I learned the power equation, that's when it struck me that everything on the internet is wrong, and I started this thread.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I have no clue what you are babbling about speed for. The statement I made is there can be no acceleration without torque. Speed had no part in it.

It was a simple analogy to illustrate how dumb you are. Surprise, it went over your head.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

if you don't want to listen to the answers don't ask the bloody questions.

Now this I agree with. I was hoping the paddles thread was a fluke and thought I'd give it another chance, but clearly this forum is not a place for thoughtful discussion. The few helpful responses are drowned out by trolls who don't even know they're trolls.

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

What a surprise, OP once again got an answer in the first response to his thread yet still ignores it

Really? Here's the first response, in its entirety. Do you really think this is the best we can do?

"Power equals torque x rpm. You cannot have one without the other except when rpm is zero.
Torquing about which is more important is meaningless; torque and power are 2 sides of the same coin."

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I guess that proper use of paddle shifters and HP (but not torque) are essential when pulling out of parking spots.

Someone said you have to keep your hands at 9 and 3 at all times so you can always use the paddles, and my question was how do you do that when making a sharp turn in a parking lot. One person couldn't even visualize what I was asking and made me post a picture of a parking lot, LOL.

And then some people said I was right, that you shouldn't use paddles in that situation. And you think I was the troll? Clearly you have no idea what a troll is. Don't worry, I'll show you.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Johnny Horsepower

Clearly you have no idea what a troll is. Don't worry, I'll show you.

Oh, you already have.

[Irace86.2.0]

How has this thread not been deleted?

[new2subaru]

I wonder what happens when you toss a torque converter into the mix?

[DarkPira7e]

I'm pretty sure horsepower is the red line and torque is the blue one...