Bad Day

[qcbaker]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Yep. If I recall, lane splitting is intended for slow moving or stopped traffic not traveling at highway speeds. At high speed it isn't really lane splitting but illegal passing.

Well, yes and no. To quote the study I posted: "Lane-splitting is safe if done in traffic moving at 50 mph or less, and if motorcyclists do not exceed the speed of other vehicles by more than 15 mph." 50mph or less isn't exactly "highway speed" the way most people think about it, but its certainly not "slow".

Lane splitting in stopped traffic is "filtering" and motorcyclists love it for obvious reasons, but traffic engineers also love it because it decreases congestion. Drivers however, in my experience, tend to feel like the riders are cutting the line and it makes them mad. I've even explained to people that its better for traffic and safer for riders, but emotion seems to trump logic most of the time

[qcbaker]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

IDK why this thread is bringing up lane splitting, qcbaker mentioned it and it doesn't even pertain here.

R_E_L brought it up because bkharmony mentioned that distracted drivers scare him as a motorcyclist. I was just adding some additional info. Sorry for the thread drift lol.

But I digress lane splitting has nothing to do with this accident and wouldn't have prevented it if this FR-S was magically a motorcycle it would've been even worse, nor does it do anything at speeds higher than 20 mph because it only makes you look like an asshole.....

*50mph, but otherwise I agree lol.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

IDK why this thread is bringing up lane splitting, qcbaker mentioned it and it doesn't even pertain here.

@extrashaky it doesn't really prevent someone suddenly changing lanes, it does prevent an accident at a slow speed or near stop situation like here. This accident didn't even involve someone changing lanes into someones path if I read it correctly.

Trust me, you won't see it done responsibly until you go to the UK, California or other places where it's legal and inherent to the motorcycle courses and training. It is indeed safer than people think.

If you're splitting properly you wouldn't be in line with traffic you'd be out of the traffic line and between the furthest #1 and #2 lanes (as far left lane as possible). Therefore you'd be at the front of the line closest to the light and it'd be way less likely to be rear ended as you'd be sitting forward of the traffic line as well as near or on the lines dividing lanes.

But I digress lane splitting has nothing to do with this accident and wouldn't have prevented it if this FR-S was magically a motorcycle it would've been even worse, nor does it do anything at speeds higher than 20 mph because it only makes you look like an asshole.....

Just came up due to the nature of the incident.
We can only say "Hope you are OK" so many times.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

IDK why this thread is bringing up lane splitting, qcbaker mentioned it and it doesn't even pertain here.

@extrashaky it doesn't really prevent someone suddenly changing lanes, it does prevent an accident at a slow speed or near stop situation like here. This accident didn't even involve someone changing lanes into someones path if I read it correctly.

Trust me, you won't see it done responsibly until you go to the UK, California or other places where it's legal and inherent to the motorcycle courses and training. It is indeed safer than people think.

If you're splitting properly you wouldn't be in line with traffic you'd be out of the traffic line and between the furthest #1 and #2 lanes (as far left lane as possible). Therefore you'd be at the front of the line closest to the light and it'd be way less likely to be rear ended as you'd be sitting forward of the traffic line as well as near or on the lines dividing lanes.

But I digress lane splitting has nothing to do with this accident and wouldn't have prevented it if this FR-S was magically a motorcycle it would've been even worse, nor does it do anything at speeds higher than 20 mph because it only makes you look like an asshole.....

IDK why you're singling out my post when I didn't bring it up.

Oh wait, yes I do. Lane splitting zealots like you and qcbaker can never pass up an opportunity to preach the holy virtues of lane splitting and try to convince people who really don't give a shit how safe and wonderful it is for everyone, even when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Five paragraphs on lane splitting, even though you "digress lane splitting has nothing to do with this accident and wouldn't have prevented it." You people are worse than PETA.

[qcbaker]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

IDK why you're singling out my post when I didn't bring it up.

Oh wait, yes I do. Lane splitting zealots like you and qcbaker can never pass up an opportunity to preach the holy virtues of lane splitting and try to convince people who really don't give a shit how safe and wonderful it is for everyone, even when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Five paragraphs on lane splitting, even though you "digress lane splitting has nothing to do with this accident and wouldn't have prevented it." You people are worse than PETA.

Yeah, fuck me for answering a question

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by qcbaker

Yeah, fuck me for answering a question

Huh. I missed that post where someone said, "Hey, my FR-S was totaled because lane splitting isn't legal here. Can someone please write several repetitive posts about how safe and wonderful lane splitting is?"

Zealot.

[qcbaker]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Huh. I missed that post where someone said, "Hey, my FR-S was totaled because lane splitting isn't legal here. Can someone please write several repetitive posts about how safe and wonderful lane splitting is?"

Zealot.

Dude. YOU asked the question:

Originally Posted by extrashaky

How does splitting lanes prevent a distracted idiot on her cell phone from change lanes right into your path?

And humfrz asked a similar question:

Originally Posted by humfrz

That would be my question also. It would seem to me that if you are in between two vehicles, each one of them about 2 feet away from you, that your chances of being squished by a distracted driver would be greater.-


humfrz

All I did was answer that question. And my other posts were either responding to Tcoat directly or replying to people who mentioned me.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by qcbaker

Dude. YOU asked the question:

I didn't ask for all the proselytizing. And your "answer" about lane splitting came before I asked anything at all.

[qcbaker]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

I didn't ask for all the proselytizing. And your "answer" about lane splitting came before I asked anything at all.

My answer was a direct reply to your question...

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by qcbaker

My answer was a direct reply to your question...

You started preaching about it before anybody asked anything. I only asked my question rhetorically in the hope that it might subtly illuminate how ridiculously irrelevant it was to the conversation. But you were already in full on zealot mode, so it blew right past you. Then you were off on your sermon, filled with the magnificent glory of AB 51 and deaf to anything else.

[qcbaker]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

You started preaching about it before anybody asked anything.

Citation needed. I only started talking about lane splitting at all as a response to you and humfrz asking how it prevented distracted driving accidents. Full stop. My only other post in this thread was to the OP advising them to go to the doctor.

I only asked my question rhetorically in the hope that it might subtly illuminate how ridiculously irrelevant it was to the conversation.

Didn't seem like a rhetorical question to me, nor did humfrz's but I'll let them weigh in on that. Look, if I misunderstood you, my bad. But:

But you were already in full on zealot mode, so it blew right past you. Then you were off on your sermon, filled with the magnificent glory of AB 51 and deaf to anything else.

For someone who "doesn't give a shit" about lane splitting, its kinda weird that you would refer to the law by its bill number like that...

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

You started preaching about it before anybody asked anything. I only asked my question rhetorically in the hope that it might subtly illuminate how ridiculously irrelevant it was to the conversation. But you were already in full on zealot mode, so it blew right past you. Then you were off on your sermon, filled with the magnificent glory of AB 51 and deaf to anything else.

Come on, Shaky. You're usually pretty funny with your sharp tone but what's wrong with discussing lane splitting? Ease up a little.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Come on, Shaky. You're usually pretty funny with your sharp tone but what's wrong with discussing lane splitting? Ease up a little.

Ya, the thread sort of turned into a general distracted driving theme and the idea of motorcycles being at less risk if not between vehicles would seem relevant to me. Not like it was a thread on turbos where it changed to talking about the merits of pet aardvarks or something. If every thread in General stayed strictly to topic then each would have about 3 posts in them.


Is pretty funny that he his ragging on the wrong guy (since Qc did not start anything on the subject) though.

[humfrz]

Lane splitting.-

humfrz