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Old 08-24-2018, 02:24 PM   #29
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Carrozzeria in Japan "made" Ohlins R&T....it was all Ohlins internals so it's more like assembled. They were serviceable here in the states without issue. I do not know where they are made now or if Carrozzeria still assembles any sets. They've gone through a few changes and appear to be of slightly better quality then they were in the mid to late 2000s (which was still quite good). There was some internet drama in those days but much of it was clever posturing from a few suspension shops. The issue I have with them now is the standard spring rates for BRZ but we have offered them with customized spring rates.

Anyway to the original poster...my advice is to drive the car stock first. Yeah your going to want some front negative camber and the car looks better with a mild drop. But figure out your goals and what you want to improve before jumping in. Maybe try an auto-x fully stock.

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Old 08-24-2018, 11:49 PM   #30
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Carrozzeria in Japan "made" Ohlins R&T....it was all Ohlins internals so it's more like assembled. They were serviceable here in the states without issue. I do not know where they are made now or if Carrozzeria still assembles any sets. They've gone through a few changes and appear to be of slightly better quality then they were in the mid to late 2000s (which was still quite good). There was some internet drama in those days but much of it was clever posturing from a few suspension shops. The issue I have with them now is the standard spring rates for BRZ but we have offered them with customized spring rates.

Anyway to the original poster...my advice is to drive the car stock first. Yeah your going to want some front negative camber and the car looks better with a mild drop. But figure out your goals and what you want to improve before jumping in. Maybe try an auto-x fully stock.

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Good information and advice, thanks Andrew.

Yeah, I do plan exercise the car in various driving conditions but I’ve driven it enough to know that I would like to dial out the factory understeer. A sportier alignment is not a bad idea. May start with Eibach springs and alignment, then start looking at sway bars.

I had researched and purchased a set of Ohlins R&T coilovers for a previous car but ended up selling the car (and the coilovers) before installing them. Not against other proven setups for the twins.

Appreciate all the input from those with experience.
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Old 08-24-2018, 11:59 PM   #31
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Easiest solution:

RCE Yellows + Sachs dampers from your PP

I have it, it works - very well.
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Old 08-25-2018, 10:39 AM   #32
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Easiest solution:

RCE Yellows + Sachs dampers from your PP

I have it, it works - very well.
I like it (K.I.S.).

Got photos?

Saw the drop is 20mm (~0.8”).

How do the spring rates compare to factory springs?
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Old 08-25-2018, 11:09 AM   #33
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I like it (K.I.S.).

Got photos?

Saw the drop is 20mm (~0.8”).

How do the spring rates compare to factory springs?
They are 45% stiffer compared to stock springs if im not mistaken. They have 4.5k rate front and rear.
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I like it (K.I.S.).

Got photos?

Saw the drop is 20mm (~0.8”).

How do the spring rates compare to factory springs?
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I think they feel about 5% stiffer than stock but that is butt dyno
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I think they feel about 5% stiffer than stock but that is butt dyno
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Well sure, as long as it’s calibrated within the last year...
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:47 PM   #37
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That’s just what I’m looking for in terms of drop (OEM+).

Nice!

And thanks LLA!

Wait do you have different tires on your stock wheels?
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That’s just what I’m looking for in terms of drop (OEM+).

Nice!

And thanks LLA!

Wait do you have different tires on your stock wheels?
Same size tire as it came with but Michelin pilot super sports
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Same size tire as it came with but Michelin pilot super sports
Makes sense and yes I can see a visual difference (beefier sidewall).

In what ways does it change driving?

Imagine less tail happy antics traded for increased grip and precision?
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Makes sense and yes I can see a visual difference (beefier sidewall).

In what ways does it change driving?

Imagine less tail happy antics traded for increased grip and precision?
Yeah, that basically sums it up. Better ride quality too over the Primacy tires. So take that into account if just changing springs and not tires.

IMO the ride height is as it should have come from the factory. It looks right, and not like someone lowered their car.
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I like it (K.I.S.).

Got photos?

Saw the drop is 20mm (~0.8”).

How do the spring rates compare to factory springs?
I had them (RCE Yellow) for a few thousand miles, they're quite a bit stiffer than stock and its VERY noticeable if you drive on crappy pavement/highways. On smooth roads you won't notice a difference. Ex. around Oakland area i wasn't a fan.. around North Bay highways they rode like a dream. I was getting catapulted out of my seat daily lol. Ended up going to softer 2017 springs on my 2013. FWIW i am on the sachs PP dampers.
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I had them (RCE Yellow) for a few thousand miles, they're quite a bit stiffer than stock and its VERY noticeable if you drive on crappy pavement/highways. On smooth roads you won't notice a difference. Ex. around Oakland area i wasn't a fan.. around North Bay highways they rode like a dream. I was getting catapulted out of my seat daily lol. Ended up going to softer 2017 springs on my 2013. FWIW i am on the sachs PP dampers.
Were you on stock tires?

I believe the softer sidewall of the PSS tires with the stiffer RCE springs netted me only a slighter stiffer ride overall. And our roads here a a patchwork of uneven crap.
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