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ZDan · 08-24-2018, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I know right? That's what I'm saying, which apparently went above the previous 2 posters' heads.

You said a 3600 lb. M3 is "impressively light". It is not...

krayzie · 08-24-2018, 11:00 AM

I can see Supra ricers buying those two strips of silver bacon and bolting them onto their cars.

funwheeldrive · 08-24-2018, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ZDan

You said a 3600 lb. M3 is "impressively light". It is not...

The lightest trim of M3 is listed at 3,495lbs. Not many (if any) mid/full-size RWD cars with decent power weigh less than that.

ZDan · 08-24-2018, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

The lightest trim of M3 is listed at 3,495lbs. Not many (if any) mid/full-size RWD cars with decent power weigh less than that.

It's supposedly a compact, not mid/full-size. 3495 lb. is still not "impressively light"...
3662 lb. as tested here: https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...s-amg-comparo/

And the smaller 2 series is nearly as massive. Sad

Yoshoobaroo · 08-24-2018, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ZDan

And the smaller 2 series is nearly as massive. Sad

This is the real tragedy. The 2 series was supposed to be an E36/E46 sized car, but what's the point if it weighs the same as the bigger car? I wouldn't care about the M3's weight if there was a lightweight alternative in the smaller car. This has been my gripe since the 1 series came out. The 1/2 series should weigh ~3250lbs and the Z4 should weigh right around 3000 for me to be interested.

IceFyre13th · 08-24-2018, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Is your name Biff?

Nice BTTF reference!!!

gymratter · 08-24-2018, 06:15 PM

weederr33 · 08-24-2018, 09:11 PM

Looks kinda like the Fiat 124 Spider

Irace86.2.0 · 08-24-2018, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

This is the real tragedy. The 2 series was supposed to be an E36/E46 sized car, but what's the point if it weighs the same as the bigger car? I wouldn't care about the M3's weight if there was a lightweight alternative in the smaller car. This has been my gripe since the 1 series came out. The 1/2 series should weigh ~3250lbs and the Z4 should weigh right around 3000 for me to be interested.

It doesn't weigh the same. The 2 series is lighter like 3150 in low/base trim, but it can be optioned to be just as heavy as the average 3-series. Unfortunately, there is a minimal amount of stuff a luxury car will always have, so there is only so much weight that can be lost. The 3-series has grown in size and features, but it is still considered a compact. It probably wasn't easy for BMW to make a 2-series (a subcompact) that is luxurious and capable of holding a straight six, but still be significantly lighter that the 3-series.

This is the same problem with the Z4. Even though the platform is unique and small, there is still the constraints of adding a 40i engine, convertible top with chassis stiffness, BMW luxuries on top of modern electronics and safety equipment. Guaranteed if the twins had the same features it wouldn't be light.

funwheeldrive · 08-24-2018, 11:02 PM

I like it. I think the proportions are spot on

gymratter · 08-25-2018, 12:12 PM

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybis7ovyPMU[/ame]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PME2V6UH9k[/ame]

vh_supra26 · 08-26-2018, 12:01 AM

How it would have looked with the traditional BMW grille.

vs the unedited

funwheeldrive · 08-26-2018, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26

How it would have looked with the traditional BMW grille.

Interesting, I didn't even realize how different the actual Z4 grill is from other BMWs.

krayzie · 08-26-2018, 09:33 AM

This jacket matches the car perfectly.

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