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Old 08-08-2018, 03:48 AM   #2171
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According to some driving a top trim Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, etc must be a horrible ordeal of non stop pull overs. Expect to see any in a bright colour followed by at least 3 cruisers and a horde of people trying to race them.
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Orange car. Loud(er) exhaust. Never noticed any abnormal attention. It isn't the colour or the sound that attracts attention it is how the car is driven.
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Ditto that.

I've driven red sports/pony cars most of my driving life, and have never gotten stopped by the cops in one. I have had stops and a couple of tickets, but they have always been in the family hauler, usually when I was driving "normally" but at a bit too high a speed.

I did get a ticket once on a motorcycle doing 39 in a 35 (really?!?).

It may be I'm more diligently looking for "hot spots" when driving a hotter car, or that I don't tend to do "really stupid" things in them on busy streets, reserving most of my antics for back country roads or empty stretches of freeway.
Very late response but, it's also the area or jurisdiction in which the car is located.



In my area, a few teens under the age of 16 drove their parents shelby (unlicensed kids mind you) flipped it over into someones yard and sadly all four of them passed away. It really effected the community negatively, there were of course vigils and services and it was sad for everyone involved. The local high school where the kids went even had a memorial made for them. The father who the car was registered to was charged with a bunch of things and is spending some jail time now due to the outcry.



Police and "moms" have have taken issue with sports cars in my area now. In fact a few moms took issue with a legal car show that had a permit and had a very large turnout every year. It takes place in the main street into town the same time every year and they tried very hard to get it banned because it may entice young people to drive aggressively. In the end, the people in charge of the car show made a concession and shortened the length of the show.


Several of my friends and I have been pulled over in sports cars several times on separate occasions since then, every time asking for license insurance, registration and leaving with no ticket and the officer saying he was either checking safety equipment in the car or some other "reason". It may very well be because the cars draw attention to themselves, but it never used to happen this frequently.



I truly believe some jurisdictions target the car community because where they go there are a few bad eggs that have ruined it for literally everyone. We haven't really taken issue with it because we can see why they do it after what happened. But I can assure you before that event we had 0 issues with meet ups and cruising around together, in fact several times we were encouraged to meet up in front of local shopping centers. Imho it's definitely based on police and communities perception of the car community.....
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:26 AM   #2172
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Read the OP. This thread is supposed to be about idiots challenging people to race, not idiots accepting challenges.
Here is the entire text of the OP:

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Seems like I've been getting alot of "challenges" on the road since I've bought my BRZ, specifically with Camaro drivers. On 2 separate occasions while I was driving on the highway, I've had a guy in a Camaro zoom past me, slow down to be side by side with my car, rev his engine, and then speed off again. Not sure what it is about these kids in Camaros.

Post some of your encounters you've had!
Let me know where it says that this thread is specifically about being challenged and not accepting, cause I don't see it.

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Moral of the story: Street racing is dangerous to other people and illegal. Police know how to use the internet, don't drag the rest of us into it by bragging about illegal activity.
No doubt, street racing is indeed illegal and dangerous. Not gonna argue that. But the idea that the police might be monitoring this thread to find street racers is ridiculous. I can see it now, the cops at my local precinct taking time out of their day to lurk on forums to spy on those pesky street racers... "WE GOT ONE HERE BOB, QCBAKER CLAIMED HE MADE A HIGHWAY PULL THE OTHER DAY. BOOK 'EM BOYS."

Look, in all seriousness, I could see an argument that the site could be held liable if they were seen to be encouraging it, but they're not. Like I said to the other dude: Calm down, deputy.
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Very late response but, it's also the area or jurisdiction in which the car is located.



In my area, a few teens under the age of 16 drove their parents shelby (unlicensed kids mind you) flipped it over into someones yard and sadly all four of them passed away. It really effected the community negatively, there were of course vigils and services and it was sad for everyone involved. The local high school where the kids went even had a memorial made for them. The father who the car was registered to was charged with a bunch of things and is spending some jail time now due to the outcry.



Police and "moms" have have taken issue with sports cars in my area now. In fact a few moms took issue with a legal car show that had a permit and had a very large turnout every year. It takes place in the main street into town the same time every year and they tried very hard to get it banned because it may entice young people to drive aggressively. In the end, the people in charge of the car show made a concession and shortened the length of the show.


Several of my friends and I have been pulled over in sports cars several times on separate occasions since then, every time asking for license insurance, registration and leaving with no ticket and the officer saying he was either checking safety equipment in the car or some other "reason". It may very well be because the cars draw attention to themselves, but it never used to happen this frequently.



I truly believe some jurisdictions target the car community because where they go there are a few bad eggs that have ruined it for literally everyone. We haven't really taken issue with it because we can see why they do it after what happened. But I can assure you before that event we had 0 issues with meet ups and cruising around together, in fact several times we were encouraged to meet up in front of local shopping centers. Imho it's definitely based on police and communities perception of the car community.....
As with any subject it is tagged with "your experience may vary". I was speaking out against the repeated statements and misconception that "ALL sporty cars" attract police attention ALL the time".
Your example actually supports what I was saying since all the attention that the cars received in your area was the direct result of one incident and how the car was driven. The reason you stated for them attempting to cancel the show was not that there would be bright coloured or loud cars there but because "it may entice young people to drive aggressively".
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someone out there in a Grand Caravan is going to put me in my place until the road stops going straight, lol.
In regards to the first statement I agree with you. Age plays a big factor as well. I mostly get challenged at lights. Still happens on the highway but there it's the little tiny ones that people do.. for example the "oh look at the guy putting his signal to merge in front of me let me just see if my minivan is fast enough to close the gap".

Spoiler alert... it's not.

Still unsure why everyone thinks any minivan is even close to a twin straight line. If you are getting dusted by a minivan with an automatic transition in your tiny light manual trans twin.... It's not the car I promise. (*not you specifically @Overdrive.... just in general as I have heard this many times.)
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Driving back from my lunch break today on a clear stretch of highway, some dude on a Yamaha FZ (couldn't tell the engine size, but definitely an 07 or 09) rode up close behind me, so I moved into the right lane to let him pass. He then paced me and pointed forward to get me to race. There was nobody else around, so I figured why not have a little fun. Downshifted to 5th with a rev match to let him know I was game, then downshifted to fourth and away we went. Kept up with him for the most part, but I think I was just a little ballsier than he was. He would've won in an actual serious race, I'm sure. Still, a bit of mid-day fun to break up the monotony of work.
That is the definition of street racing.

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Lol isn't the whole point of this thread to share stories about when people asked you to race? Also, what do you think is gonna happen, a cop is gonna read this and give me a ticket? Calm down, deputy.

No. The point of this thread is that most of us are smart enough to not fall for the challenges. Apparently some are not that bright.

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That's the sub-forum title, not the thread title, but I can see how you would be confused. The thread title is ""Come Race Me Bro" Encounters", which is exactly what I posted about. If you're that upset about it, tell the mods to move this thread, which is entirely about street racing or at the very least people attempting to get you to street race, to Off-Topic or whichever sub-forum will make you feel better.
That sub section title applies to all threads in the sub section so it is relevant. Once again you missed the point that this is an ANTI street racing topic.
Street racing is not what the movies make it. I don't give a flying fuck if street racing drivers kill themselves since it was their call but most of the casualties of this activity are not the drivers. The victims are the innocent families in the minivan that get hit at high speed or the women and children minding their own business on the sidewalk that get creamed by out of control cars. You want to talk about your petty victories at street racing take it to Facebook where the other self indulgent teens hangout.

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In regards to the first statement I agree with you. Age plays a big factor as well. I mostly get challenged at lights. Still happens on the highway but there it's the little tiny ones that people do.. for example the "oh look at the guy putting his signal to merge in front of me let me just see if my minivan is fast enough to close the gap".

Spoiler alert... it's not.

Still unsure why everyone thinks any minivan is even close to a twin straight line. If you are getting dusted by a minivan with an automatic transition in your tiny light manual trans twin.... It's not the car I promise. (*not you specifically @Overdrive.... just in general as I have heard this many times.)
Meh. That shit goes on all the time no matter what you drive and has zero to do with us driving sports cars. I still strongly believe that most of the "race me" scenarios described on here are people just thinking bad or aggressive driving is a challenge somehow. Every car that whips up beside you, slows down to take a look and then takes off again is not challenging you to a race.
It is the person thinking that they are being challenged that are getting the ego boost not the alleged challengers.
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That is the definition of street racing.
I never said it wasn't...

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No. The point of this thread is that most of us are smart enough to not fall for the challenges. Apparently some are not that bright.

That sub section title applies to all threads in the sub section so it is relevant. Once again you missed the point that this is an ANTI street racing topic.
I'm not even arguing that my post didn't violate the "no street racing" rule. My point is more that there are tons of others in this thread basically admitting to the same thing. The whole thread has people admitting to street racing. To call this an "anti-street racing" thread is a bit revisionist if you ask me lol. If the mods want to ban me for my post, fine I'll accept that even if I think its a bit uptight. I would just think the rule would enforced equally to all others in this thread who have also admitted to accepting challenges. I don't see this level of backlash against StraightOuttaCanadaEh when he essentially did the same thing last month lol.

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I wasn't trying to brag about a victory lol. All I said was that I kept up with the biker that challenged me, which surprised me. I figured he would just pull away from me, and he didn't. At the end of the day, I was just sharing a story about getting challenged to a race in a thread about sharing stories about getting challenged to a race.

And you can save me the sob stories about the victims of street racing lol. I think you're under the impression that I'm advocating street racing or arguing that what I was doing wasn't stupid or dangerous, and that simply isn't the case. Granted, I do believe that a highway pull like that with nobody else around, in a non-residential area is basically harmless to anyone but myself and the dude that challenged me, but I'm not deluded into thinking I wasn't really street racing or anything like that.

For the third time, calm down, deputy.
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Driving back from my lunch break today on a clear stretch of highway, some dude on a Yamaha FZ (couldn't tell the engine size, but definitely an 07 or 09) rode up close behind me, so I moved into the right lane to let him pass. He then paced me and pointed forward to get me to race. There was nobody else around, so I figured why not have a little fun. Downshifted to 5th with a rev match to let him know I was game, then downshifted to fourth and away we went. Kept up with him for the most part, but I think I was just a little ballsier than he was. He would've won in an actual serious race, I'm sure. Still, a bit of mid-day fun to break up the monotony of work.
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I never said it wasn't...



I'm not even arguing that my post didn't violate the "no street racing" rule. My point is more that there are tons of others in this thread basically admitting to the same thing. The whole thread has people admitting to street racing. To call this an "anti-street racing" thread is a bit revisionist if you ask me lol. If the mods want to ban me for my post, fine I'll accept that even if I think its a bit uptight. I would just think the rule would enforced equally to all others in this thread who have also admitted to accepting challenges. I don't see this level of backlash against StraightOuttaCanadaEh when he essentially did the same thing last month lol.



I wasn't trying to brag about a victory lol. All I said was that I kept up with the biker that challenged me, which surprised me. I figured he would just pull away from me, and he didn't. At the end of the day, I was just sharing a story about getting challenged to a race in a thread about sharing stories about getting challenged to a race.

And you can save me the sob stories about the victims of street racing lol. I think you're under the impression that I'm advocating street racing or arguing that what I was doing wasn't stupid or dangerous, and that simply isn't the case. Granted, I do believe that a highway pull like that with nobody else around, in a non-residential area is basically harmless to anyone but myself and the dude that challenged me, but I'm not deluded into thinking I wasn't really street racing or anything like that.

For the third time, calm down, deputy.
Ya, sure, it is all just a big misunderstanding.
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Ya, sure, it is all just a big misunderstanding.
So, letting the guy know I accepted his challenge, and then coming up with an explanation for why he didn't pull away from me when his bike is much faster than my car qualifies as "bragging about a petty victory"? Lol, okay dude. Whatever you say.
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Still unsure why everyone thinks any minivan is even close to a twin straight line. If you are getting dusted by a minivan with an automatic transition in your tiny light manual trans twin.... It's not the car I promise. (*not you specifically @Overdrive.... just in general as I have heard this many times.)
Most modern minivans are easily-capable of consistent 6-ish (or less) second 0-100 (62mph for you Yanks) runs, with close to 300hp on tap. For a lightweight momentum car like the Toyobaru, you'd need to do some extreme clutch abuse to make that happen (and even then, it'd be driver-dependent).
Don't underestimate either the van in a straightline (or the foolishness of the driver in the curves).
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So, letting the guy know I accepted his challenge, and then coming up with an explanation for why he didn't pull away from me when his bike is much faster than my car qualifies as "bragging about a petty victory"? Lol, okay dude. Whatever you say.
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Most modern minivans are easily-capable of consistent 6-ish (or less) second 0-100 (62mph for you Yanks) runs, with close to 300hp on tap. For a lightweight momentum car like the Toyobaru, you'd need to do some extreme clutch abuse to make that happen (and even then, it'd be driver-dependent).
Don't underestimate either the van in a straightline (or the foolishness of the driver in the curves).
Not sure where this myth of the common sub 7 minivan came from but there are very very few that can even touch 7 much less under it.


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