FR-S or Veloster turbo

[DrDuquette]

I'm just looking at this purely from a financial standpoint. Read or take a Dave Ramsey course and you will understand more of what I am thinking.

I totally agree. You can get into trouble with any car.

[Tbxgz]

Originally Posted by fatoni

im not saying its bad to have a good credit score but 20% down and consistent and adequate income go a long way

I'm not sure you understand how financing works..

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by fatoni

i dont take too much stock in credit score as i do financial history. i doubt the raise in insurance would be anywhere near the cost in interest to build credit. again i dont think building credit is a bad idea but i think we put a little too much faith in it over other factors. i know that when i ruptured my achilles tendon, i had good credit but failed to get a $3500 loan for an operating suite even though i was prequalified for a 25k auto loan

I'm in agreement with you. No problem. Worrying about my credit score is not something I do. Definitely more in the "Dave Ramsey" camp ("debt is dumb" and "credit score = I Debt Score") than the "do everything you can to get a perfect score" camp.

Just trying to explain that it does effect other things. The trade-off is perfectly fine with me.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Tbxgz

I'm not sure you understand how financing works..

well seeing the dozens of people who are getting loans over at lending tree might have skewed my pov. im not saying that you can just buy a house without credit. im just saying that the number isnt the end of the world

[Tbomb 25]

In this era they are giving away new cars....people are getting them with 400 beacon scores....5 years ago they would have thrown you off the lot with that kind of score...lol

[tripjammer]

The Veloster is just plain ugly even the turbo model compared to the FR-S\BRZ\86.

But cudos to Hyundai for making a turbo version of it. It will sell. But its still not a competitor to the AS1 cars...

[Grateful Dave]

If you see yourself driving your buddies or your GF and her friends all around. Then the Veloster is better for you. If you're not. The FRS all the way. Nothing is going to handle like a FRS/BRZ except a Porsche, Lotus or the Prancing Horse. Maybe a Miata, but the FRS looks so much cooler and it is semi practical. I've had my FRS for 3 weeks now and I've driven over 1000 miles and half those miles on Mountain/Hilly roads. I've never had so much fun driving mountain roads until I drove the FRS and I've driven many mountain roads in my life.
The FRS is Frickin' Real Sweet!

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave

If you see yourself driving your buddies or your GF and her friends all around. Then the Veloster is better for you. If you're not. The FRS all the way. Nothing is going to handle like a FRS/BRZ except a Porsche, Lotus or the Prancing Horse. Maybe a Miata, but the FRS looks so much cooler and it is semi practical. I've had my FRS for 3 weeks now and I've driven over 1000 miles and half those miles on Mountain/Hilly roads. I've never had so much fun driving mountain roads until I drove the FRS and I've driven many mountain roads in my life.
The FRS is Frickin' Real Sweet!

But because its sold under the "Scion" moniker.....it will and I REPEAT IT WILL BE PLENTY OF CHICKS DRIVING THIS CAR....no matter how well you think it compares to a Lotus or a Porsche in handling or its past orgins...

[adprokid]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Hey, i'm currently deciding between these two cars, i'm 18 and this would also be my first car. Are these good cars for a 1st time owner?

fr-s

[Grateful Dave]

Originally Posted by Tbomb 25

But because its sold under the "Scion" moniker.....it will and I REPEAT IT WILL BE PLENTY OF CHICKS DRIVING THIS CAR....no matter how well you think it compares to a Lotus or a Porsche in handling or its past orgins...

I don't give a flying rats ass who will be driving it or what name it has on it. Yeah sure, it would be nice to say Toyota on it. I know who designed it, who made it and what it drives like. It is in my price range and it looks and drives like a classic 2+2 coupe sports car. If you are worried that it will be a chick car then don't buy it. Don't buy the BRZ either, Lesbos' drive Subaru's Also don't buy the Mustang, I see so many old grandmas driving those tractors.

[Tbxgz]

Autoguides take on the VT

An impressive machine based on all the available statistics, the Veloster Turbo is undeniably fun but fails to deliver that wow factor.

In nearly all categories, Hyundai’s value approach has allowed it to rise to the top, but not here. After all, this is a segment where value is far from being a main priority and where ‘fun-to-drive’ comes standard.

Regardless, Hyundai will sell lots of Veloster Turbos by nature of the fact that it delivers the goods on paper while in reality isn’t too hard-edged and won’t scare off the average consumer. A hot hatch for all, enthusiasts need not apply.

Autoguide - 2013 Veloster Turbo

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave

I don't give a flying rats ass who will be driving it or what name it has on it. Yeah sure, it would be nice to say Toyota on it. I know who designed it, who made it and what it drives like. It is in my price range and it looks and drives like a classic 2+2 coupe sports car. If you are worried that it will be a chick car then don't buy it. Don't buy the BRZ either, Lesbos' drive Subaru's Also don't buy the Mustang, I see so many old grandmas driving those tractors.

I think your missing the point....the fact that it wears the "Scion badge" and soon it will be lined up on the lot with the TC's,XB's..ect. As we all know Scions selling demagraphic at early to mid 20's the younger woman make more than men at this age and are more likely to be able to afford a cooler looking FRS and will prefer it to a crappy TC. so its destined to happen young women love nice looking coupes just as much as men especially when their single without kids.

[Tbomb 25]

At 1st i didnt care about the the Scion badge but.....and true we all really know its a Subaru/Toyota thru and thru but with the magnitude and importance of this car to enthusiast and and its heritage, it should have had a Toyota badge...just speaking my mind on this...

[Koolinkenji]

Get what ever car you decide.... You don't need experience to drive a car like that.... I just turned 19 last week... So I basically have only about a year and half of driving experience. The car I drive? A 2001 BMW 740il with about 300hp (was my dad's old car). I've been driving it since. As long as you drive safely there nothing to worry about. But I really want the Veloster Turbo XD