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I don't know, but its time for a new name. | 125 | 25.41% | |
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07-30-2018, 03:25 PM | #3347 | |
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Look at the perseverance in the drift market for 80s/90s cars. Our cars are still being produced, they have a long life ahead of them. As long as once in a while someone creates something fun to drive, the 20 years in between will remain as it has. I'd rather companies focus on making economical cars, so that with my car choice I can remain unique. If they stop offering manual transmissions, then people have to work to own them, that's all.
Let them milk those with closed eyes and deep pockets; we'll keep a private market to ourselves and enjoy the survival / resurrection life. Nothing is as satisfying as having someone ride in your 92 e36 and saying " wow, this car is nice! It has 312,000 miles and is almost 30 years old?!?!" I hope my FRS can live to 30, I'll wear it proudly under my butt. |
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Even as cars become more and more efficient / economical ( i.e. Prius , Yaris, etc) , that technology to some degree does trickle down to other cars in the line ( VVT technology, gearing mainly) , whether it's a sports car , SUV, or truck.
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Personal preference is just that. I'm not sure why we are having this discussion again.
Oh wait. Internet.
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Now, I def agree that the B58 seemed like a good platform to do that with (it was a clean sheet design over the older n54/n55 motors), but apparently Tada-San and the team at Toyota had a number of grievances with the B58 design that they wanted to address. Hence, the larger scale redesign of the motor. The other caveat is that there is still the possibility that the CGI version of the motor might not be available with the car at launch, but rather will be on the GRMN top-spec model, which may be fairly powerful (450hp+), and would benefit from the added strength. However, I have it on good authority that some of the mules running around as early as 2 years ago had the new "iron" motor in it and also weighed in at roughly 1380kg. I'm digging every day for more info as to what we're getting in the production-spec cars, but Toyota has been locking down more and more of our sources as launch nears. My main takeaway is that Toyota has had far more of an aggressive role in shaping this car than the press lets off. There has been a significant Toyota engineering presence dedicated to this project and everything from the chassis, suspension, drivetrain, etc has been meticulously curated and modified to keep the car very Toyota in ideology.
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..but this point of contention isn't about any personal preference. Yes, some people are turning it into that for whatever reason, but the concern here is that Toyota may not give us the choice to even have a preference.
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We may have to accept what they decide on, go figure.
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Reading this article (Moto is one of the few internet writers I trust) you will notice Tada gives very little away about the actual specs and set up of the car. People are just putting their own thoughts in there and others are running with them.
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Yeah, I see that now. I was thinking more along the lines of this is better than that.
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I'm sure all of you have read this.....
https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-toyota...ssi-1824270916 If the designer of the Supra thinks this way, and he is also designing the next gen 86, then what are the chances of a MT in any of these sports cars? I still think that from a corporate standpoint, the 86 is very likely to be discontinued as its volume declines. There is no way that the Toyota management will continue with such a low volume car with limited margins. I'm sure the Supra will have decent margins at a price point in the mid-50's especially with BMW being in the mix with the Z4. Lower volumes of higher margin cars can make it. It is all about profit in a public corporation. |
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Hell, even they were not convinced with what they were writing. "Before we get too upset, Tada was seemingly careful with his wording, and didn’t completely rule out a manual"
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I would be totally happy to be proven wrong by Toyota but most rumors, interviews and supposed insider information have all pointed towards no manual for the foreseeable future. Perhaps they are yanking our chains to build hype, but I would think confirming it is in development would make people want to line up with their wallets open. Sort of odd that Tada-san has somewhat contradicted himself when originally he used to talk about how vital MTs were during the 86 project while he seems a bit perplexed every time he gets questioned about its importance in the Supra. As far as the specs, you're right it isn't official but from knowing the new Z4's official stats think we can make a safe bet it should be comparable. I can't imagine BMW would let Toyota have a tremendous performance advantage in the Supra especially with the supposed new engine variant. |
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