The First of Toyota's New GR Performance Line

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

It'd be tough, since anyone going this route is likely to be buying part tailored to the experience they're pursuing. While I think the sentiment is nice, I think people would rather spend less, buy a base model, and build it to their own spec. I'm sure it could be popular though, they could just market it as track spec.

Well, I wasn't thinking they would say "FI Ready" in the marketing. Track spec would be a good way of selling it I agree.

Basically, it could be the answer to the 'Needs more power' crowd with relatively minimal investment by Toyoburu. Might be a difficult sell in more regulated regions, but I'd bet at least the American market would be big enough to justify the investment. Also, it wouldn't be stepping on the toes of the flagships, just capturing more money that would otherwise go somewhere else.

I guess I disagree that most people would pass on properly engineered, integrated, installed, and warrantied upgrades in favor of spending more time and money to install similar parts with higher risk because they don't have the resources to perform real integration.

[nikitopo]

The GR sport reminds me the STI sport.

[PetrolioBenzina]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Well, I wasn't thinking they would say "FI Ready" in the marketing. Track spec would be a good way of selling it I agree.

Basically, it could be the answer to the 'Needs more power' crowd with relatively minimal investment by Toyoburu. Might be a difficult sell in more regulated regions, but I'd bet at least the American market would be big enough to justify the investment. Also, it wouldn't be stepping on the toes of the flagships, just capturing more money that would otherwise go somewhere else.

I guess I disagree that most people would pass on properly engineered, integrated, installed, and warrantied upgrades in favor of spending more time and money to install similar parts with higher risk because they don't have the resources to perform real integration.

Easy. Toyota gets serious about the car, instead of not knowing what to do with it. Two cars, a base model (current 86) and a fancy one with a nicer interior. You sit down at the dealership during the process and get handed the TRD catalog. Go nuts, or not. All I want is better brakes.

Edit: And two engine choices. The stock, and one that was sent to Yamaha for a massage.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

Easy. Toyota gets serious about the car, instead of not knowing what to do with it. Two cars, a base model (current 86) and a fancy one with a nicer interior. You sit down at the dealership during the process and get handed the TRD catalog. Go nuts, or not. All I want is better brakes.

Edit: And two engine choices. The stock, and one that was sent to Yamaha for a massage.

I suppose that's one way to do it. Then again, Toyota being serious about a car results in Camrys and Corollas. No amount of TRD add-ons will fix a car Toyota is serious about.

Don't they already sell a trim with brembos?

Engine updates are very, very expensive with emissions regulations and economy ratings and all that.

[PetrolioBenzina]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Engine updates are very, very expensive with emissions regulations and economy ratings and all that.

I suspect Yamaha could find plenty of HP. It might cost some money, yes, but then we would see if the HP-complainers would put their money where their mouth is.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

Edit: And two engine choices. The stock, and one that was sent to Yamaha for a massage.

Yamaha did a massage already. They developed the cylinder heads.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

I suspect Yamaha could find plenty of HP. It might cost some money, yes, but then we would see if the HP-complainers would put their money where their mouth is.

Give us the LFA treatment pls!

[monkeybike]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

Easy. Toyota gets serious about the car, instead of not knowing what to do with it. Two cars, a base model (current 86) and a fancy one with a nicer interior. You sit down at the dealership during the process and get handed the TRD catalog. Go nuts, or not. All I want is better brakes.

Edit: And two engine choices. The stock, and one that was sent to Yamaha for a massage.

It is exactly like this, just not in the US.

[gtpvette]

As much as I love my FRS,,, if I was in the market again, and $34K price point,, I buy a new leftover Focus RS before I'd buy this.

[Shinigami301]

You can buy a nice Gazoo Racing placard for your trunk lid in any Super Autobacs in Japan... for just $110.00 equivalent.


Bwahahahaha.