The First of Toyota's New GR Performance Line - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

bkharmony · 07-02-2018, 09:17 PM

https://jalopnik.com/the-first-of-to...l-s-1827283601

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This Toyota 86 GR Sport is the bottom trim and offers a new, exclusive front spoiler, special front bumper side fins, Brembo brakes, updated wheels, a small-diameter steering wheel and GR gauges.

The 86 GR Sport comes in either the six-speed manual or the six-speed automatic. Exterior colors include white, black and red. There do not appear to be any engine upgrades.

The price for the manual comes to 3,780,000 Japanese yen (approximately $34,130) and the automatic costs 3,846,960 Japanese yen (approximately $34,735). The standard 86 starts at $26,455.

In addition to the 86 GR Sport, buyers also have the option of purchasing GR Parts, which include the front spoiler, side fins, GR rear spoiler, steering wheel, start switch and the T-Connect Navi, which is basically a lap time recorder.

extrashaky · 07-02-2018, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bkharmony

The First of Toyota's New GR Performance Line

Is Still Sort Of Boring

Why did you cut it off?

NARFALICIOUS · 07-02-2018, 09:43 PM

So this is only in Japan? The upcoming TRD version sounds better

humfrz · 07-02-2018, 09:56 PM

Well, that's nice.

Even if it were offered here, I'm not seeing anything that would tempt me to trade in my 2013 …

humfrz

Mr.ac · 07-02-2018, 10:50 PM

So just aftermarket stuff just jacked up dealer prices?
Same engine, same performance, just cost more?
No thanks.

PetrolioBenzina · 07-03-2018, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac

So just aftermarket stuff just jacked up dealer prices?
Same engine, same performance, just cost more?
No thanks.

LOL, they've been doing that since the start. Just like an iPhone. "Ooooh! THe new iPhone!" What does it do differently? "Nothing, but I have to have one!"

humfrz · 07-03-2018, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

LOL, they've been doing that since the start. Just like an iPhone. "Ooooh! THe new iPhone!" What does it do differently? "Nothing, but I have to have one!"

Yep!

strat61caster · 07-03-2018, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac

So just aftermarket stuff just jacked up dealer prices?
Same engine, same performance, just cost more?
No thanks.

New name, same TuRD

extrashaky · 07-03-2018, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

Just like an iPhone. "Ooooh! THe new iPhone!" What does it do differently?

At least Toyota isn't remotely crippling the old one so you'll have buy the new one to get the same performance.

DarkPira7e · 07-03-2018, 09:49 AM

There will always be a market for models like this. Generally the only time you'll see an increased performance variant is if initial trim offerings are actually slow or unaccomodating of sport. The stock 86 is neither, no matter how much we tell ourselves.

I'm honestly in the small group that hopes they don't come out with a turbo/SC variant. Keep aftermarket alive and don't make people's research/ hard work become crushed with a stock car pushing 240whp that is built for it.

mazeroni · 07-03-2018, 10:43 AM

So it's a BRZ Limited with the PP but for the price of the Ts. *
Doesn't have any of the Ts enhancements.
TF is Toyota thinking? This is on par with the 86 Black Edition not actually being black.

* Sorry, I see that you get a bunch of glossy, useless appearance goodies at that price. Woo!

PetrolioBenzina · 07-03-2018, 11:50 AM

LOL, I'm not sure if Jalopnick was being snarky or if it's a compliment, but "goofy little car"
is a perfect description.

PetrolioBenzina · 07-03-2018, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

There will always be a market for models like this. Generally the only time you'll see an increased performance variant is if initial trim offerings are actually slow or unaccomodating of sport. The stock 86 is neither, no matter how much we tell ourselves.

Maybe I misunderstand your point. Are you saying the 86 is not a slow car, and is very capable stock? If so, I've said that forever. If you want to learn how to go fast and drive well, there is no better car to learn with.

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

I'm honestly in the small group that hopes they don't come out with a turbo/SC variant. Keep aftermarket alive and don't make people's research/ hard work become crushed with a stock car pushing 240whp that is built for it.

If it had 240, then the narrative would switch to "it needs at least 260". Then the effort would switch to getting 300 out if it. OFT and E90 is a blast, I'm seriously considering their header as well.

DarkPira7e · 07-03-2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

Maybe I misunderstand your point. Are you saying the 86 is not a slow car, and is very capable stock? If so, I've said that forever. If you want to learn how to go fast and drive well, there is no better car to learn with.
If it had 240, then the narrative would switch to "it needs at least 260". Then the effort would switch to getting 300 out if it. OFT and E90 is a blast, I'm seriously considering their header as well.

I agree with both of these points! You understood perfectly what I was implying. Why should they bother adding more power when it's already set up very well for 95% of drivers? The numbers game never ends, so you are right to assume people are never happy about a posted result.

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