Next Gen BRZ/86!

[ZionsWrath]

True but these things grow brands. Look what happened to Honda and Toyota enthusiast vehicles once they became big players.

[bcj]

They discontinue the model and wait 20 years before the next?

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by weederr33

And change the final drive to 3.75!

This was actually a factory option in Japan and Europe. Why don't you publish some results with the 4.3 fd? A 3rd gear pull would be fine. I asked you at least twice and you just walked away. Maybe you can convince me to change the fd.

[tomm.brz]

really nikitopo was the longer fd an option in Germany?
serious question, just curious

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by why?

only dealers really care. Subaru loves the fact they sell a car to people who might otherwise never even think of buying a subaru. Plus it looks fantastic, and that always helps a brand.

Exactly. If they want to grow, they should offer a broader selection of vehicles.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by tomm.brz

really nikitopo was the longer fd an option in Germany?
serious question, just curious

Yes in Germany and a few other countries. I believe in the Netherlands too.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

This was actually a factory option in Japan and Europe. Why don't you publish some results with the 4.3 fd? A 3rd gear pull would be fine. I asked you at least twice and you just walked away. Maybe you can convince me to change the fd.

What? I don't recall you asking me anything about my 4.3 final drive.

[tomm.brz]

lol
how much did it cost if you know it?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Exactly. If they want to grow, they should offer a broader selection of vehicles.

So the .0001% of the buying public that may want such a thing is appeased? Really? A "broader selection"? People here already buy the PP option and then proceed to rip half of the parts out. Should they build, test, certify for export, and then stock every conceivable combination of part? You think that would grow the business? It would plow it right into the ground is what it would do

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by weederr33

What? I don't recall you asking me anything about my 4.3 final drive.

About the logs ...

Originally Posted by tomm.brz

lol
how much did it cost if you know it?

In Germany it had a cost of 27k euros. The ordinary model had a cost of 31k euros. It had the 3.727 fd and total weight 1202kg comparing to the 1239kg of the ordinary model. Check attachment.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

So the .0001% of the buying public that may want such a thing is appeased? Really? A "broader selection"? People here already buy the PP option and then proceed to rip half of the parts out. Should they build, test, certify for export, and then stock every conceivable combination of part? You think that would grow the business? It would plow it right into the ground is what it would do

I believe that you need to have a couple of sport/performance models, especially when the rest of the line-up is becoming now boring. Forester XT is history for example ...

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

About the logs ...

The only logs I've done are data logs for tweaking my tune by Cosworth. I don't care about how quickly I got to redline as they are for my engine tune. Besides the logs you asked about were how my AFR were. Not my FD and acceleration difference.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

I believe that you need to have a couple of sport/performance models, especially when the rest of the line-up is becoming now boring. Forester XT is history for example ...

They have the WRX and STi which already puts there percentage of performance vehicles to appliance ones well above all the other Japanese assemblers. Having a bunch of different versions of the BRZ would not help them grow.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by weederr33

The only logs I've done are data logs for tweaking my tune by Cosworth. I don't care about how quickly I got to redline as they are for my engine tune. Besides the logs you asked about were how my AFR were. Not my FD and acceleration difference.

They are the same logs. You can check different things. AFRs, temperatures, CAM timings, knock, acceleration and so on.