Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, spring break is half over, so far so good ....... I took the girls sailing this morning .....


humfrz

You do realize that you grand daughters are probably only 4 or 5 years away from looking like that right?

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Pretty sure any of them there would land you in jail. Even in Georgia.

#4 has a beer?

[echo419]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

#4 has a beer?

thanks, now I don't feel like a total creep.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

#4 has a beer?

Or a Dad's root beer.
Even if a real beer that don't mean nothin'. My 16 year old grandson had a beer a couple of weeks ago.

[Cole]

Originally Posted by humfrz

It could be that the number you are looking for is unknowable. Why? Because they may not have tracked that number because it would have had to have been separated out of various R&D projects and distributed overhead of the limited production process.




humfrz

I'm sure that they have a ballpark.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

A billon is probably low balling it. It can cost almost a million for us to R&D a new rotor let alone a whole new super car.
They didn't "make" $350K on each car. That would imply that all the parts, tooling and equipment to build it were free. Believe me that stuff ain't free by a long shot. The costs of manufacturing are far greater than most people would ever believe. When they say they lost money at that price they probably didn't even include the R&D costs.
Not many companies release R&D costs for any car. Why would they? The ones that do are just using it as part of their marketing anyway. The good news is that they can write a pile of those costs off so in the long run they do not end up paying nearly what it looks like on the surface. They also gain tech that they can use in the normal cars so they can easily make that money back on the appliance vehicles.

No shit they didn't make 350K. Hence the quotations. You misunderstood the entire point, of my post, I think.

[Clipdat]

All this LFA talk and no pics..

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Clipdat

All this LFA talk and no pics..

Nice looking car, but at that price I can think of a lot of other cars I would rather have.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Cole

I'm aware of the development cost of an average car, I know they lost money on the PFA. Just curious as to the dollar amount.

For example:
500 LFAs made
Retail of 350,000
500x350,000= $175,000,000 "made" on the LFA. I'm aware you could change options, and some LFAs cost more than 350,000.

If we go with $1B, then Toyota "lost" $825M.

I'm just curious as to what the real number was. Does any other company let it be known what it costs to develop low production number cars?

In any case, it really doesn't matter. Just a curious thought.

Originally Posted by Cole

I'm sure that they have a ballpark.



No shit they didn't make 350K. Hence the quotations. You misunderstood the entire point, of my post, I think.

Putting it in quotations doesn't change that you implied that the sales prices applied only against the R&D.
I fully understood your point. It was a badly thought through one and I offered some insight. Take it or leave it but don't say I misunderstood shit.

[Clipdat]

What do you guys think about this Ferrari 812 "Superfast"?

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, spring break is half over, so far so good ....... I took the girls sailing this morning .....


humfrz

Captain Humfrz.

[Teseo]

Originally Posted by Clipdat

What do you guys think about this Ferrari 812 "Superfast"?

An upgrade of ferrari f12 berlinetta

[Clipdat]

DAT ASS:

Originally Posted by Teseo

An upgrade of ferrari f12 berlinetta

[Cole]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Putting it in quotations doesn't change that you implied that the sales prices applied only against the R&D.
I fully understood your point. It was a badly thought through one and I offered some insight. Take it or leave it but don't say I misunderstood shit.

Semantics. But cool.

[Cole]

Anyhow, another on the "ignore" list.