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Old 03-22-2018, 09:23 AM   #1555
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Apparently we were not the only ones that liked it.
Yet compared to Fallout 3 and New Vegas, overall critic reception was worse. Plenty of games get good intital reviews, yet are hated by much of the player base. Steam Reviews are a better way to find out if a game is any good or not. I wonder if that had something to do with people plopping their own cash down.

But hey, three people liking a game on a forum is a clear indicator that it's the best game ever!
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Yet compared to Fallout 3 and New Vegas, overall critic reception was worse. Plenty of games get good intital reviews, yet are hated by much of the player base. Steam Reviews are a better way to find out if a game is any good or not. I wonder if that had something to do with people plopping their own cash down.

But hey, three people liking a game on a forum is a clear indicator that it's the best game ever!
Didn't say it was the best ever. We said we liked it. One guy saying it sucked and considering themselves the majority has just as much meaning.


LOL Yep 71% is truly a "minority" on Steam
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:27 AM   #1557
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Didn't say it was the best ever. We said we liked it. One guy saying it sucked and considering themselves the majority has just as much meaning.
But, I am in the majority. Reviews on steam are "mixed" do you know what that means in terms of games standing? It's a bad game.

In terms of a Fallout universe game, it was a massive disappointment. You can't do a non violent playthrough, you can't properly role play your own style of character, you can't make your own story, you aren't given multiple options for how to finish quests, dialogue is garbage.

It's fine for an action game, but is not a typical Fallout Role Playing Game
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:34 AM   #1558
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But, I am in the majority. Reviews on steam are "mixed" do you know what that means in terms of games standing? It's a bad game.

In terms of a Fallout universe game, it was a massive disappointment. You can't do a non violent playthrough, you can't properly role play your own style of character, you can't make your own story, you aren't given multiple options for how to finish quests, dialogue is garbage.

It's fine for an action game, but is not a typical Fallout Role Playing Game
LOL so "mixed" means bad since YOU don't like it? LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:38 AM   #1559
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LOL so "mixed" means bad since YOU don't like it? LOLOLOLOLOLOL
No, it means that generally, it wasn't well received by those who paid money for it. Forget what mainstream reviewers say, who get free stuff from game devs. Steam reviews are a far better gauge of how a game actually is.

Also, excellent sidestepping of the issues laid out.
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:41 AM   #1560
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No, it means that generally, it wasn't well received by those who paid money for it. Forget what mainstream reviewers say, who get free stuff from game devs. Steam reviews are a far better gauge of how a game actually is.

Also, excellent sidestepping of the issues laid out.
Did you miss this?





Not sidestepping anything. YOU are making the statement that it was a small minority that liked it based on YOUR opinion. You are wrong based upon the Steam reviews.
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Not sidestepping anything. YOU are making the statement that it was a small minority that liked it based on YOUR opinion. You are wrong based upon the Steam reviews.
Did you read the reviews? Even positive ones said you had to play it as not an RPG. That doesn't sound like a great endorsement for a game that's an RPG

Hell, there are positive reviews that say NOTHING positive about the game.
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Did you read the reviews? Even positive ones said you had to play it as not an RPG. That doesn't sound like a great endorsement for a game that's an RPG
So don't look at it as a RPG just play it on it's merits. There was enough RPG elements to make it enjoyable to many.
Still not a huge majority that didn't like it as it was even if you want to pick and choose the comments that support your mistaken statement.
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So don't look at it as a RPG just play it on it's merits. There was enough RPG elements to make it enjoyable to many.
Still not a huge majority that didn't like it as it was even if you want to pick and choose the comments that support your mistaken statement.
Metacritic user reviews are in line with the game being not a good Fallout game
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Still not seeing this "very small minority". Looks to me like over 50% liked it just fine. You do know what a minority is right?
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Still not seeing this "very small minority". Looks to me like over 50% liked it just fine. You do know what a minority is right?
So 3176 is bigger than 3188?

This is also what shows up for me:

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So 3176 is bigger than 3188?

This is also what shows up for me:
I used the mixed as OK.
Oh ya that forced mouse acceleration just ruins everything. Most of the complaints are similar with whiny gamers that just wanted the exact same thing over again. As with most things the complainers are more vocal than the people that like things so the whole review numbers are skewed to start with. So it was a little different that doesn't make it bad.
I am not asking you to like it nor trying to convince you to change your mind but simply saying that there are loads of people that did contrary to your arbitrary and unsupported statement of a "very small minority".
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