Edelbrock E-force Owner's thread and FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions)

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Hades

Thanks for the suggestion. I've heard the trans & engine is a ticking time bomb at 300whp+, though, does e85 really help with the reliability that much?

Has there been any reliability problems with this on the stock engine? I'm really just looking for some more low-mid range torque where I don't have to worry about *any* reliability issues (mostly worried about blown engine/trans). I'm fine with running the ~260 whp even. I'm just not sold this thing will last 100k+ miles - especially since I have a '13 motor, and I've heard lots of nightmares about spun bearings/thrown rods (both N/A and F/I).

There is no firm number on when the engine will fail. Each engine has variance from the factory, and at 300whp, you're nearly double the original factory specification.

Edelbrock is confident enough in their CARB level of output, that they will warranty your powertrain. It's up to you to decide if 300whp is okay for you or not.

That being said, CSG has built hundreds (yes, literally hundreds) of FI/E85 setups locally that have run without issue, and many are approaching that 100k mark.

It all really depends on how you use the power. If you want to be nice to the engine, keep the RPMs high when you are flooring it, keep your oil cool, and perform regular maintenance with top shelf products.


My turbo car is at 300wtq 360whp, and I track it.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ThatAsianBradah

I've been looking into the D-Box Mod. On the Delicious Tuning website, a lot of their Research and Development is done with their Double D-Box setup.

I don't have any e85/e100 stations where I live so running the Double D-Box setup is seemingly pointless. Will I still get the confirmed +10 peak horsepower gain from the D-Box for Edelbrock SC without going Double D?

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The D-box works universally with any tune provided by CSG/DT for the Edelbrock.

[Hades]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

There is no firm number on when the engine will fail. Each engine has variance from the factory, and at 300whp, you're nearly double the original factory specification.

Edelbrock is confident enough in their CARB level of output, that they will warranty your powertrain. It's up to you to decide if 300whp is okay for you or not.

That being said, CSG has built hundreds (yes, literally hundreds) of FI/E85 setups locally that have run without issue, and many are approaching that 100k mark.

It all really depends on how you use the power. If you want to be nice to the engine, keep the RPMs high when you are flooring it, keep your oil cool, and perform regular maintenance with top shelf products.


My turbo car is at 300wtq 360whp, and I track it.

I just want to know the minimum work on the engine required to make it reliable at those power figures, assuming somebody *doesn't* want to chance a stock engine.

[Randoman5]

Originally Posted by Hades

I just want to know the minimum work on the engine required to make it reliable at those power figures, assuming somebody *doesn't* want to chance a stock engine.

Connecting rods. Maybe pistons. Based on reading alone.

[Hades]

Originally Posted by Randoman5

Connecting rods. Maybe pistons. Based on reading alone.

Thanks. That's what I was thinking initially, but I was hoping there was some first-hand experience with built FA20s.

[Randoman5]

Originally Posted by Hades

Thanks. That's what I was thinking initially, but I was hoping there was some first-hand experience with built FA20s.

I'm not sure it's worth it preventatively. If you shop for used engines they cost less than the supercharger. This isn't a Porsche.

[Hades]

Originally Posted by Randoman5

I'm not sure it's worth it preventatively. If you shop for used engines they cost less than the supercharger. This isn't a Porsche.

True, but then you have to worry about the headache of a blown engine, chance of getting a bad used one, and not to mention the fact that the next engine can blow as well.

[Randoman5]

Originally Posted by Hades

True, but then you have to worry about the headache of a blown engine, chance of getting a bad used one, and not to mention the fact that the next engine can blow as well.

If you sent your engine out it'd likely be gone longer.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Hades

I just want to know the minimum work on the engine required to make it reliable at those power figures, assuming somebody *doesn't* want to chance a stock engine.

Not enough sample data to know, and it won't really be known for a long time.

Currently, the most common optino is to just run it on the stock engine, knowing it *might* not last. Many have been surprised with how long it's gone.

There's a JRSC car doing over 345whp, that has been boosted almost 100k miles with 140k on the clock. Original motor.

[Elliotw]

Hey guys,
Wondering if any owner of Edelbrock E-force kit tracks their car regularly?
I am wondering how these kits hold up at the track. Obviously going to need an oil cooler.

Thanks

[gahooligan]

Mike, do you have a link to that JRSC car? That is impressive!!

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[Lunatic]

Originally Posted by Elliotw

Hey guys,
Wondering if any owner of Edelbrock E-force kit tracks their car regularly?
I am wondering how these kits hold up at the track. Obviously going to need an oil cooler.

Thanks

My e-force e-85 car has dozen's of track days on it. 323 hp at the wheels. At 50,000 miles I had a head gasket lift so I had to pull the motor. While out I checked the bearings and for the abuse this engine has gone through the bearings looked good enough to go back in. My car has always had PUROL brand oil in it and I think that helped a lot.

[StraightOuttaCanadaEh]

Originally Posted by Elliotw

Hey guys,
Wondering if any owner of Edelbrock E-force kit tracks their car regularly?
I am wondering how these kits hold up at the track. Obviously going to need an oil cooler.

Thanks

Here's a review from someone who's done a lot of track work with it

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[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Elliotw

Hey guys,
Wondering if any owner of Edelbrock E-force kit tracks their car regularly?
I am wondering how these kits hold up at the track. Obviously going to need an oil cooler.

Thanks

With proper supporting mods, the kit is rock solid at the track.