Velox vs Raceseng Camber Plates

[infinity21]

You might have issues maxing out camber through the strut slots/bolts with 245/40/17 tires depending on how wide they run. I would recommend you get adjustable top hats to avoid rubbing.

[Cybmx]

Originally Posted by infinity21

You might have issues maxing out camber through the strut slots/bolts with 245/40/17 tires depending on how wide they run. I would recommend you get adjustable top hats to avoid rubbing.

That's the issue I'm facing. I have the velox top hat but I can only gain a little camber as more camber will put my end link rubbing the frame.

http://imgur.com/Ifwap48
http://imgur.com/KT8g5Li

I have the koni shocks insert and lowered about 1".

[infinity21]

Originally Posted by Cybmx

That's the issue I'm facing. I have the velox top hat but I can only gain a little camber as more camber will put my end link rubbing the frame.

http://imgur.com/Ifwap48
http://imgur.com/KT8g5Li

I have the koni shocks insert and lowered about 1".

I suppose fixing one problem creates another. I'm not sure what else you can do other than get coilovers with smaller spring perches

Maybe try the ground control system so you can trim down the spring perch?
http://www.ground-control-store.com/...ion.php/II=923

[ChrisSC300]

Originally Posted by Cybmx

That's the issue I'm facing. I have the velox top hat but I can only gain a little camber as more camber will put my end link rubbing the frame.

http://imgur.com/Ifwap48
http://imgur.com/KT8g5Li

I have the koni shocks insert and lowered about 1".

What kind of camber were you at when it started to rub?

[Cybmx]

Originally Posted by ChrisSC300

What kind of camber were you at when it started to rub?

I'll take some photos later. Haven't have the alignment done yet as I just put on the shocks. But from what I can see visually, it's not enough. I will know for sure next week, what exact number I have now

[Cartman]

Originally Posted by Cybmx

That's the issue I'm facing. I have the velox top hat but I can only gain a little camber as more camber will put my end link rubbing the frame.

http://imgur.com/Ifwap48
http://imgur.com/KT8g5Li

I have the koni shocks insert and lowered about 1".

Install the bottom crash bolt that the camber bolt replaced on top and push the hub in, The camber bolt + smaller crash bolt should give you up to -2.4 of camber, then add as much camber as you can from the top hats before it starts rubbing.

[VerusEric]

Originally Posted by Cybmx

That's the issue I'm facing. I have the velox top hat but I can only gain a little camber as more camber will put my end link rubbing the frame.

http://imgur.com/Ifwap48
http://imgur.com/KT8g5Li

I have the koni shocks insert and lowered about 1".

We run our shop car (factory shocks, RCE yellows) at around -2.8 of negative camber and do not run into this issue. Are you doing something odd with camber bolts as well to cause the rubbing?

We've had other guys with our kit maxing them out to -3+ and have not let us know of any rubbing either.

Thanks,
Eric

[Cybmx]

Originally Posted by VerusEric

We run our shop car (factory shocks, RCE yellows) at around -2.8 of negative camber and do not run into this issue. Are you doing something odd with camber bolts as well to cause the rubbing?

We've had other guys with our kit maxing them out to -3+ and have not let us know of any rubbing either.

Thanks,
Eric

I only rubbed at full lock at maxed out setting on camber plates. I solved the issue by not maxing out on the camber plates and use camber bolts in addition for more camber. Running around 3.2 now and no issues anymore.

[bucketfoot]

I wasn't sure if it was better to start a new thread or add on to this old one. So I figured I'd try this first.

I am a new owner of a 2020 86 and I will be doing moderate tracking 2-3 times a year (HPDE and possibly 86Cup in the future). I will not be installing coilovers or lowering springs, as the car needs to remain something that my wife will be happy to ride in!

I am most definitely on the cheap side, but I also budget my expenditures and am someone who would rather spend more money once and do things right the first time.

So with all of that said, given my experience with tire wear tracking my previous car, I have camber plates on my short list of items for the car. As I am not someone who runs a dozen track events a year along with the fact that I have an automatic I will never be competitive with the top 86Cup drivers. So while the Raceseng CasCam looks like what would be the best setup for someone who focuses more heavily on being competitive, the question I keep asking myself is does the extra $300 make sense for me.

Any insight from you guys would be greatly appreciated!

[jflogerzi]

You might loose bump travel with camber plates. What number are you shooting for?

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[bucketfoot]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

You might loose bump travel with camber plates. What number are you shooting for?

Not sure I'll need all of it, but I'd like to have at least -3 degrees available.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Both are pretty darn good with coilovers, but with stock shocks, get the Velox plates.

You lose bump travel when using the Raceseng plates and their upper spring perch on stock shocks (not coilovers though..they are fantastic with coilovers).

- Andrew

[RotARy15]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Both are pretty darn good with coilovers, but with stock shocks, get the Velox plates.

You lose bump travel when using the Raceseng plates and their upper spring perch on stock shocks (not coilovers though..they are fantastic with coilovers).

- Andrew

How bad is the loss of bump stroke? I'm installing Raceseng plates on Sachs dampers and stock springs this week and I plan on staying with those components for at least the fall track day season.


I thought I saw that someone measured a 1mm rise in ride height with the Raceseng plates but there was no mention of whether the upper spring perch and upper damper rod mounting point were independently relocated.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by RotARy15

How bad is the loss of bump stroke? I'm installing Raceseng plates on Sachs dampers and stock springs this week and I plan on staying with those components for at least the fall track day season.


I thought I saw that someone measured a 1mm rise in ride height with the Raceseng plates but there was no mention of whether the upper spring perch and upper damper rod mounting point were independently relocated.

At the track for they will be fine. For daily driving expect some harsh or crashing feeling

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