2018 BRZ Orders Open. tS and 50th Anniversary Due April

[Adam_L]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Pricing announced on the 50th Anniversary edition: $29,940 + $860 D&D.

Give how limited availability they are, I'll bet that price is firm. No haggling down $500- 1000 like on a Limited or PP.

If it were my dollar, I'd potentially go PP or Ts manual, at as good of a price as you can get. Actually, the PP is probably 98% of what the Ts is , so yeah I'd probably go manual PP at about $28k ….. best bang for the buck. To justify going an extra $6-7k , for the added exterior parts + suspension improvements on the Ts…. not so sure I'd be convinced of that. Some suspension changes can be done on a PP, for $400-600 (springs, anti-sway bar, etc) that would yield a bit better results. Plus upgrade tires at say $600 , total $1200 …. now your 99% of what a Ts is.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Adam_L

Give how limited availability they are, I'll bet that price is firm. No haggling down $500- 1000 like on a Limited or PP.

If it were my dollar, I'd potentially go PP or Ts manual, at as good of a price as you can get. Actually, the PP is probably 98% of what the Ts is , so yeah I'd probably go manual PP at about $28k ….. best bang for the buck. To justify going an extra $6-7k , for the added exterior parts + suspension improvements on the Ts…. not so sure I'd be convinced of that. Some suspension changes can be done on a PP, for $400-600 (springs, anti-sway bar, etc) that would yield a bit better results. Plus upgrade tires at say $600 , total $1200 …. now your 99% of what a Ts is.

Really depends on the buyer. If the buyer is someone that is not going to mod it much then might as well put every penny you can into getting the best car you can.

If the buyer is going to spend the money on mods then get the cheapest car that is still in good shape you can find.

[Adam_L]

That's what I'm saying. I'm saying, and from the info from Subaru it's going to be the same hp/ torque car between the tS and PP. The main difference is suspension straight out of the package, tS steps it up. If someone bought a PP, then wanted to just do a mild drop....say $500, or a specific coilover say $900- $2000 then they can mod how they prefer. An 18" wheel isn't going to make you faster in a straight line, or not even to apex a turn any better. An 18" tire will be more money to replace, then the equivalent 17" tire.

[Veloist]

Heritage Blue cars dropped off today. My phone camera actually cannot capture the correct hue of blue. It has just the slightest touch of green to it.

Not too bad in person.

[deejaylew]

How do we expect this car to hold it's value? I don't want to lose a ton of money with the possibility of the next generation Sti dropping in 2 years... Thoughts???

[Ernest72]

Originally Posted by deejaylew

How do we expect this car to hold it's value? I don't want to lose a ton of money with the possibility of the next generation Sti dropping in 2 years... Thoughts???

Always a risk, but I doubt you will get a turbo BRZ in 2 years and definitely not at the same price point.

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by deejaylew

How do we expect this car to hold it's value? I don't want to lose a ton of money with the possibility of the next generation Sti dropping in 2 years... Thoughts???

When buying a new car I always assume it won't. Cars are money pits. We all know this...

[NCtoBRZ]

Originally Posted by deejaylew

How do we expect this car to hold it's value? I don't want to lose a ton of money with the possibility of the next generation Sti dropping in 2 years... Thoughts???

The BRZ has the worst depreciation of any Subaru, so I wouldn’t expect it to hold value very well. Sure the tS might hold a little more value to the right buyer, but it also costs significantly more to begin with. If you always hold out because of the next cool car or model that might come along, you’ll never buy any new car.

[Veloist]

My BRZ is not my daily driver but I've had tons of fun in it, and the FR-S/86/BRZ in general is a very meaningful car to me. I've driven it about 7000 miles and just got it appraised since I'll be selling it very soon since I'll be getting the tS.

Anyways, the dealership (different from the one I work for) offered me 77% of MSRP. If I take into account the purchase price of my car, my depreciation for the 7,000 miles and 2.5 years of ownership is 16%. In other words it's still worth 83% of the price I bought it for.

When I was testing waters back in August, I got 3 offers for $700 below what I bought the car for (not including tax).

Point I'm trying to make, is low-mileage, clean examples will hold their value better and I can see this going on for a long time. Back in 2013 my dad sold our 1-Year Old FR-S for $200 below its MSRP which was what he bought it for. (It did have only 500 miles)

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by Veloist

My BRZ is not my daily driver but I've had tons of fun in it, and the FR-S/86/BRZ in general is a very meaningful car to me. I've driven it about 7000 miles and just got it appraised since I'll be selling it very soon since I'll be getting the tS.

Anyways, the dealership (different from the one I work for) offered me 77% of MSRP. If I take into account the purchase price of my car, my depreciation for the 7,000 miles and 2.5 years of ownership is 16%. In other words it's still worth 83% of the price I bought it for.

When I was testing waters back in August, I got 3 offers for $700 below what I bought the car for (not including tax).

Point I'm trying to make, is low-mileage, clean examples will hold their value better and I can see this going on for a long time. Back in 2013 my dad sold our 1-Year Old FR-S for $200 below its MSRP which was what he bought it for. (It did have only 500 miles)

That's still quite a loss when you add it all up, no? Taxes paid were lost too. What was the total loss after selling including taxes paid?

I agree a clean car will hold value better, but most new cars will depreciate fairly quickly.

[Veloist]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

That's still quite a loss when you add it all up, no? Taxes paid were lost too. What was the total loss after selling including taxes paid?

I agree a clean car will hold value better, but most new cars will depreciate fairly quickly.

I haven't sold it yet, but if I sold it in August for the 3 private party offers I got I would've lost $3500 including tax.

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by Veloist

I haven't sold it yet, but if I sold it in August for the 3 private party offers I got I would've lost $3500 including tax.

Not bad, not bad at all. I would think that your situation is optimal.

[why?]

Originally Posted by deejaylew

How do we expect this car to hold it's value? I don't want to lose a ton of money with the possibility of the next generation Sti dropping in 2 years... Thoughts???

The next gen STi is going to be nothing like the current one. There are far too many rumors to really guess what it will be, but odds are it will be a hybrid of some sort just because the entire market is going in that direction. Also odds are high the price is going up by quite a bit.

[deejaylew]

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ

The BRZ has the worst depreciation of any Subaru, so I wouldn’t expect it to hold value very well. Sure the tS might hold a little more value to the right buyer, but it also costs significantly more to begin with. If you always hold out because of the next cool car or model that might come along, you’ll never buy any new car.

Not necessarily true, I rarely lose big money on a car purchase. My first BRZ was the only time I felt like i legitimately got destroyed on the resale.