Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Ok, need help from you dinosaurs. Im doing a white elephant gift exchange. Participants will be roughly between 23 and 33 years old, so no. Walkers as a suggestion dont count.

I was honestly thing some him and hers stuff from lovers(as a joke), but im open to all suggestions.

What id the context of the group? Friends? Coworkers? The joke may not go over well with the wrong group.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Cole

I told one of the new guys at work today to smarten the fuck up and do his job better (don't worry, I told him politely, but only in words, my tone was icy). He said "I'm actually an engineer, do you want to hear about all my qualifications? I know exactly what I'm doing."

I replied with "I don't give a fuck what you are. From what I've seen, you're a pompous **** head who's skills don't match up to your peacock attitude. Get the fuck back to work and live up to your EIT designation"

I'm fully expecting to be called by my boss on Monday morning and be written up.

You truly do suck as a supervisor don't you?

[Cole]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You truly do suck as a supervisor don't you?

I must, in that I've had trouble with two guys who have bigger egos than skill levels.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Ok, need help from you dinosaurs. Im doing a white elephant gift exchange. Participants will be roughly between 23 and 33 years old, so no. Walkers as a suggestion dont count.

I was honestly thing some him and hers stuff from lovers(as a joke), but im open to all suggestions.

Sorry, I can't help you ...... I can't remember back that far as to what would have been funny ......


humfrz

[Impureclient]

If I read the phrase "performance package" one more time in the next 5 minutes in here, I'm punching a baby.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Cole

I told one of the new guys at work today to smarten the fuck up and do his job better (don't worry, I told him politely, but only in words, my tone was icy). He said "I'm actually an engineer, do you want to hear about all my qualifications? I know exactly what I'm doing."

I replied with "I don't give a fuck what you are. From what I've seen, you're a pompous **** head who's skills don't match up to your peacock attitude. Get the fuck back to work and live up to your EIT designation"

I'm fully expecting to be called by my boss on Monday morning and be written up.

Now, THAT sounds like something from a "how not to be a supervisor skit" .....

You getting "talked to", at least, would not surprise me ......

Now, in preparation for Monday morning, I suggest you give some thought into how you would answer this question:

Now, Mr Cole, "in what other ways might have you handled that situation .. ??"


humfrz - retired supervisor ........

[Cole]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Now, THAT sounds like something from a "how not to be a supervisor skit" .....

You getting "talked to", at least, would not surprise me ......

Now, in preparation for Monday morning, I suggest you give some thought into how you would answer this question:

Now, Mr Cole, "in what other ways might have you handled that situation .. ??"


humfrz - retired supervisor ........

I suppose I could have let the cocksure engineer in training continue to do his job incorrectly. But then I'd be in hot water still, when I got a call from my boss asking why 100% of the work he did had to get redone.

Edit: My big issue is that I've noticed too many of the guys out here half ass their work, and don't overly care. I assume it's because they've had people who also half ass their work train them. The amount of things I see daily from these guys blows my mind. Stuff that is in direct contravention of our procedures manual, and frankly, I've had enough of their attitudes about it. It's not ok to do your job wrong and get an attitude with me when I tell you what you're doing wrong. I don't give a flying fuck if you have a masters in electrical engineering, I'm fairly certain they don't teach you how to do this field work at university. Surprisingly, in terms of the field staff, I'm about fourth most senior, and for the most part, I know what's right, and what's way wrong. I say more way wrong than right from this guy in the past two days he's been here and I need to correct that.

[Teseo]

Finished to watch The punisher, expected strong violence and got it with mild porn too. Win win

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Cole

I suppose I could have let the cocksure engineer in training continue to do his job incorrectly. But then I'd be in hot water still, when I got a call from my boss asking why 100% of the work he did had to get redone.

Edit: My big issue is that I've noticed too many of the guys out here half ass their work, and don't overly care. I assume it's because they've had people who also half ass their work train them. The amount of things I see daily from these guys blows my mind. Stuff that is in direct contravention of our procedures manual, and frankly, I've had enough of their attitudes about it. It's not ok to do your job wrong and get an attitude with me when I tell you what you're doing wrong. I don't give a flying fuck if you have a masters in electrical engineering, I'm fairly certain they don't teach you how to do this field work at university. Surprisingly, in terms of the field staff, I'm about fourth most senior, and for the most part, I know what's right, and what's way wrong. I say more way wrong than right from this guy in the past two days he's been here and I need to correct that.

I'm not saying that you should allow an employee under your supervision to continue to do shoddy work.

But, I have found that there are effective ways to instruct people to do the job correctly, without demeaning, belittling , embarrassing or discouraging them.

It does take patience and it can be quite challenging, especially when you're under pressure to complete a job or project within a specified time period.

With your knowledge and experience, I'm sure you will be able to refine your technique to become an even more successful supervisor and then on up to manager.

Hint: Each trainee is a different individual and responds differently to different supervisory techniques.


humfrz

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Cole

I told one of the new guys at work today to smarten the fuck up and do his job better (don't worry, I told him politely, but only in words, my tone was icy). He said "I'm actually an engineer, do you want to hear about all my qualifications? I know exactly what I'm doing."

You should have replied: I know one engineer his name was William Edwards Deming.

[Sarlacc]

Originally Posted by Cole

I suppose I could have let the cocksure engineer in training continue to do his job incorrectly. But then I'd be in hot water still, when I got a call from my boss asking why 100% of the work he did had to get redone.

Edit: My big issue is that I've noticed too many of the guys out here half ass their work, and don't overly care. I assume it's because they've had people who also half ass their work train them. The amount of things I see daily from these guys blows my mind. Stuff that is in direct contravention of our procedures manual, and frankly, I've had enough of their attitudes about it. It's not ok to do your job wrong and get an attitude with me when I tell you what you're doing wrong. I don't give a flying fuck if you have a masters in electrical engineering, I'm fairly certain they don't teach you how to do this field work at university. Surprisingly, in terms of the field staff, I'm about fourth most senior, and for the most part, I know what's right, and what's way wrong. I say more way wrong than right from this guy in the past two days he's been here and I need to correct that.

Originally Posted by humfrz

I'm not saying that you should allow an employee under your supervision to continue to do shoddy work.

But, I have found that there are effective ways to instruct people to do the job correctly, without demeaning, belittling , embarrassing or discouraging them.

It does take patience and it can be quite challenging, especially when you're under pressure to complete a job or project within a specified time period.

With your knowledge and experience, I'm sure you will be able to refine your technique to become an even more successful supervisor and then on up to manager.

Hint: Each trainee is a different individual and responds differently to different supervisory techniques.


humfrz

Here's my two cents. (After decades of being team leader, project manager, department manager and so on.)

Before going into a situation with an idiot who doesn't do a good job, you should define what you want to achieve. Do you want to blow off steam and make your subordinate angry and resentful, or do you want him to start doing a better job? I'll assume the latter.

Then ask yourself how you can manipulate your subordinate to do a better job. If you don't possess sufficient psychopathic traits to do it naturally, there are books and websites to read. Start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho...l_manipulation

Subordinate manipulation often includes lying to their stupid faces ("I see great potential in you.") and pretending to be a nice, caring person ("Since I like you so much, I'd like to show you a few tricks on how to get things done quicker while keeping the brass off your ass by making the result look right.")
These things requires practice, but can also help with girlfriends, wives, and other difficult people in your life.

The most important thing is to practice your sincere and warm smile. Spend time in front of a mirror. Always squint your eyes when you do your fake smile. It makes the smile look more genuine.

[cjd]

Originally Posted by Sarlacc

Here's my two cents. (After decades of being team leader, project manager, department manager and so on.)

Sublime application of your decades of experience, that! I can't pull it off, but I recognize it.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Sarlacc

Here's my two cents. ..............These things requires practice, but can also help with girlfriends, wives, and other difficult people in your life..............

.

Obviously, you have never met mrs humfrz .........




humfrz

[Sarlacc]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Obviously, you have never met mrs humfrz .........




humfrz

No, but I'm sure she would appreciate me making efforts to hide what an egocentric and insufferable asshole I really am. I've become quite good at it