Tesla Shocks Us With New 2020 Roadster, Does 0-60 In 1.9 Sec!

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Azzudien

Musk is brilliant, not at making cars but he continues to generate cash flow like no other company all the while Tesla has NEVER shown a profit.
Need cash, no problem lets roll out a less pricey car and take reservations.
Need more cash, no problem, roll out a semi truck
Wait, not enough cash from the truck, no problem roll out a roadster
Oh still not enough cash, make founders edition roadster and require 5 times the deposit of the regular roadster.

The Tesla Semi will sell in bucket loads. This will be their bread and butter. Big business is all about money, and they have plenty of money to invest. Imagine UPS, Target, Walmart, etc all buying Tesla Semi’s for their fleets. If they can save millions doing it then they will, so if the savings they quoted hold true then Tesla sales could explode.

Tesla is investing, so there won’t be a profit until suddenly profit explodes. Look at Amazon and others. Just a few years ago Amazon never turned a profit. Tesla is smart to reinvest.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxbu...-dont.amp.html

[86 South Africa]

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

https://www.tesla.com/roadster/

Personally think it’s a good looking car, and incredible performance figures. I’d buy it

[Azzudien]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

The Tesla Semi will sell in bucket loads. This will be their bread and butter. Big business is all about money, and they have plenty of money to invest. Imagine UPS, Target, Walmart, etc all buying Tesla Semi’s for their fleets. If they can save millions doing it then they will, so if the savings they quoted hold true then Tesla sales could explode.

Tesla is investing, so there won’t be a profit until suddenly profit explodes. Look at Amazon and others. Just a few years ago Amazon never turned a profit. Tesla is smart to reinvest.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxbu...-dont.amp.html

I don't disagree with you, but the problem Musk is going to have is how long will the investors hang on for? Stock is up this year on all the announcements, but I think it is just a matter of time before it goes down the tubes.
They are just not delivering on the promises they make.

[nextcar]

Fantastic car for racing at drag strips and from light to light...

This car has twice the battery capacity as the P100D, so that puts the weight of JUST THE BATTERIES at 2500 pounds...

If you ever get a chance to drive the model S (I have...) you will find that the car cannot corner at high speed. Sure, it has a low center of gravity and body roll is not the problem either...

Inertia and tires. Epic understeer. Not my cup of tea; however if it is yours it will be a hell of a thrill.

Feel free to differ in your opinion.

[jvincent]

Originally Posted by nextcar

This car has twice the battery capacity as the P100D, so that puts the weight of JUST THE BATTERIES at 2500 pounds...

Twice the batteries or twice the range. Not necessarily the same thing.

If I'm bored this weekend I'll put my physics hat on and crunch some numbers on the weight of the car, etc.

[nextcar]

Originally Posted by jvincent

Twice the batteries or twice the range. Not necessarily the same thing.

If I'm bored this weekend I'll put my physics hat on and crunch some numbers on the weight of the car, etc.

Car is spec'ed with 200KW battery pack vs the 100KW battery of the P100D

[mav1178]

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[Azzudien]

Originally Posted by nextcar

Fantastic car for racing at drag strips and from light to light...

This car has twice the battery capacity as the P100D, so that puts the weight of JUST THE BATTERIES at 2500 pounds...

If you ever get a chance to drive the model S (I have...) you will find that the car cannot corner at high speed. Sure, it has a low center of gravity and body roll is not the problem either...

Inertia and tires. Epic understeer. Not my cup of tea; however if it is yours it will be a hell of a thrill.

Feel free to differ in your opinion.

Have never driven the model S but I know they suck at the track. Someone brought one to a track day at Watkins Glen. His first session was in Intermediate 2, 2nd Session Int 1, 3rd session novice, 4th session they wouldn't let him drive, he was just causing to many problems from being so slow.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Azzudien

I don't disagree with you, but the problem Musk is going to have is how long will the investors hang on for? Stock is up this year on all the announcements, but I think it is just a matter of time before it goes down the tubes.
They are just not delivering on the promises they make.

The stock is overpriced as is. Stocks don’t reflect a company’s value or its profit margins, especially in the case of Tesla; it is all speculation about interest in the stock. Like my link discussed, Amazon hasn’t been profitable for the majority of its existence. Did that make a difference?

Originally Posted by nextcar

Fantastic car for racing at drag strips and from light to light...

This car has twice the battery capacity as the P100D, so that puts the weight of JUST THE BATTERIES at 2500 pounds...

If you ever get a chance to drive the model S (I have...) you will find that the car cannot corner at high speed. Sure, it has a low center of gravity and body roll is not the problem either...

Inertia and tires. Epic understeer. Not my cup of tea; however if it is yours it will be a hell of a thrill.

Feel free to differ in your opinion.

Originally Posted by Azzudien

Have never driven the model S but I know they suck at the track. Someone brought one to a track day at Watkins Glen. His first session was in Intermediate 2, 2nd Session Int 1, 3rd session novice, 4th session they wouldn't let him drive, he was just causing to many problems from being so slow.

With three motors, the car will use to torque steer to balance understeer and oversteer. But that doesn’t really matter. Don’t let the Lotus looks confuse its purpose. It may not want to be a track contender. The Dodge Demon and the Bugatti, for example, don’t market themselves as track stars. One is a purpose built dragster and the other is built for luxury touring with ludicrous acceleration and top speed.

[Irace86.2.0]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...ic-trucks.html

Called it. No surprise really.

[Impureclient]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Amazon hasn’t been profitable for the majority of its existence. Did that make a difference?

How does that work? Isn't Jeff Bezos worth $100 billion? Is it just profitable for him and not shareholders?

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

The Tesla Semi will sell in bucket loads. This will be their bread and butter. Big business is all about money, and they have plenty of money to invest. Imagine UPS, Target, Walmart, etc all buying Tesla Semi’s for their fleets. If they can save millions doing it then they will, so if the savings they quoted hold true then Tesla sales could explode.

I agree. If Tesla get close to the delivering the specs they are throwing out, and they can make them in quantity to meet demand, they will sell them in huge numbers, although it would seem to be it would be smarter to partner up with Mac, Peterbilt, or one of the other big truck guys who have the factories and let them do it.

I'm a bit surprised they aren't loading the roof down with their roof tile tech to pull some solar power and increase range as well. Isn't it supposed to follow the sun?

Walmart's announcement doesn't surprise me, and it really means nothing at this point. With over 6,000 trucks they are always looking for the next great thing. Heck, they've been working on it themselves.

He didn't talk much about the box size truck they showed either. That would seem to be a true win there.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Impureclient

How does that work? Isn't Jeff Bezos worth $100 billion? Is it just profitable for him and not shareholders?

His net worth is in his held stock. The company doesn't have to be profitable for him to be rich, he just has to sell stock.

Also, his salary would come out of the revenue before the company is "profitable". It's an expense right off the bottom line.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Impureclient

How does that work? Isn't Jeff Bezos worth $100 billion? Is it just profitable for him and not shareholders?

Like Dadhawk said, any one employee’s salary doesn’t dictate profit. That won’t determine paying out dividends.