First BRZ to get pulled over in NJ!!

[Hix]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

that's called a police state and last time i checked ya'll yanks were against that? where are your gun laws now?

I am from Texas so our gun laws are very lax. I have automatic weaponry and suppressed guns. During the 4th we actually shot over 500 rounds in the back yard between shooting skeet and paper targets. Not quite a police state or a yank but it is a regularly accepted law often by other names in most states. Officer's opinion is a loosely termed law that makes police trained witnesses, having their word be higher weighted than that others.

[engee]

Originally Posted by ZetaVI

Was this in NJ? I always hear horror stories about being pulled over in NJ.

Yea it was in NJ.

Originally Posted by 10splaya22

Was it visual or radar?

Visual. Not sure how he could have used radar since both cars are moving, his included.

Originally Posted by FT-86GOD

Originally Posted by Max Schnell

Go to court in NJ and talk to the prosecutor. Be nice and ask for a unsafe driving ticket downgrade. You can have up to 2 in 5 years. The ticket carries no point but will carry a nice fine ($250.00 surcharge over base fine) for the State.

Do not get a 3rd unsafe in 5 years though. You get 4 points on the third ticket.

Word of advice, do not give an attitude to the cop when pulled over. They tend to forget the masses they give tickets to but if you were "that pissy guy" then you will be remembered when you go to court and the cop would recommend the prosecutor against a downgrade.

I'm not a worried about fighting it. I know about the 2 in 5 years law. Although this is my first speeding ticket, I have fought others for other people and know enough about how things work.

I never give an attitude to the officer, but I do intend on fighting the ticket. Wondering if I should get a lawyer because I have free access to one.

It's also just rather inconvenient as now I have to go to court and what not. *sigh

Originally Posted by Stu baru

Yeah, police opinion counts for a lot in court...good or bad. I will say this, age helps. I've been pulled over several times under questionable circumstances and have gotten away with just a verbal warning. I think when they find out your some middle-aged dude, they aren't quite as harsh with you.

I wish I looked older. Unfortunately, I'm asian and everyone probably thinks I'm 19.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by Hix

I am from Texas so our gun laws are very lax. I have automatic weaponry and suppressed guns. During the 4th we actually shot over 500 rounds in the back yard between shooting skeet and paper targets. Not quite a police state or a yank but it is a regularly accepted law often by other names in most states. Officer's opinion is a loosely termed law that makes police trained witnesses, having their word be higher weighted than that others.

In Canada, if you go to court, you have full right to request that the officer provide recorded evidence of using radar to clock you and provide proof that the device was calibrated prior to use.

can also meet with the prosecutor prior to your court date to negotiate terms, often people settle for this (since they were, after all, speeding) and get a reduction that is easier on the wallet and licence points.

If a cop here pulls someone over just cuz they THOUGHT you were going fast, their face will end up on the news the following day.

[engee]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

In Canada, if you go to court, you have full right to request that the officer provide recorded evidence of using radar to clock you and provide proof that the device was calibrated prior to use.

can also meet with the prosecutor prior to your court date to negotiate terms, often people settle for this (since they were, after all, speeding) and get a reduction that is easier on the wallet and licence points.

If a cop here pulls someone over just cuz they THOUGHT you were going fast, their face will end up on the news the following day.

I wish that was the case in the USA.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by engee

I wish that was the case in the USA.

It can be if you want it to be.

Know of the "occupy" movements? Next time some cop gives you shit, write down his badge number and name, file a complaint and write to your local paper/news station.

You guys live in America for fucks sake, the whole freedom of whatever came from your country!



Stand up for your rights. Shoulda voted Ron Paul. I hope no one on this forum is a Romeny supporter.

[blu_]

I wish we had interest groups in the USA as strong as the NRA to protect us from the joke that is the way we treat "civil infractions". You cant beat tickets without a lawyer. I have seen a judge drop a serious ticket without even hearing the case because the guy before me at court had some well known attorney. Then I get up and get reemed for going supposedly exactly 10 over the limit on an empty road.

[Hix]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

Stand up for your rights. Shoulda voted Ron Paul. I hope no one on this forum is a Romeny supporter.

I am a huge Ron Paul supporter but sadly the majority vote does not matter, only the Gallup Polls. I am more Republican than Democrat mainly because I like the idea of being left alone and have a small central government. I was at the UT rally for Ron Paul and I think there were over 15,000 people. Quite different than the town halls any of the other candidates got. The media had a different agenda and decided to go to the Romney rally with it's 400 people that happened the same day.

That's neither here nor there in this matter. I think your best bet is to just make a settlement and get the minimum or take deferred. Then again we don't have a points system here.

[Max Schnell]

Originally Posted by engee

I'm not a worried about fighting it. I know about the 2 in 5 years law. Although this is my first speeding ticket, I have fought others for other people and know enough about how things work.

I never give an attitude to the officer, but I do intend on fighting the ticket. Wondering if I should get a lawyer because I have free access to one.


I wish I looked older. Unfortunately, I'm asian and everyone probably thinks I'm 19.

If you have access to a free lawyer then use that access. If you are a 19 year old coming to claim "I did not do it" the prosecutor probably won't believe it.

If you decide to go yourself just ask for mercy and state it is your first time, you are supporting a new car, you didn't realize how easy it was to drive it fast and you will be more careful in the future. You can always ask the judge to reset the case for a lawyer if the prosecutor is not willing to offer you a good downgrade.

Good luck with it. Take a picture of the car to show the prosecutor, who knows maybe he likes the BRZ and will give you a break for that...

[engee]

Originally Posted by Max Schnell

If you have access to a free lawyer then use that access. If you are a 19 year old coming to claim "I did not do it" the prosecutor probably won't believe it.

If you decide to go yourself just ask for mercy and state it is your first time, you are supporting a new car, you didn't realize how easy it was to drive it fast and you will be more careful in the future. You can always ask the judge to reset the case for a lawyer if the prosecutor is not willing to offer you a good downgrade.

Good luck with it. Take a picture of the car to show the prosecutor, who knows maybe he likes the BRZ and will give you a break for that...

No, I am not 19. I'm actually turn 25 this year. The 19 year old comment was just a joke. lol

I'll probably go with a lawyer. I see no reason not to. I'm almost certain I can fight the points, but I hope the fine gets reduced too. I don't think the latter is going to happen.

I'll keep you guys posted, but the result of this won't be for at least another month due to court date and what not. The judicial system always seems to move like a snail in my eyes.

[Lonewolf]

I don't know the law in NJ, but here in CA there are certain situations where speeding tickets can be tossed out when speed surveys have not been conducted on multi-direction roads within a certain number of years.

Also, does NJ allow you to ask for a continuance and request a trial by written declaration (most police hate having to do extra paperwork)?

Just some things that may help you...

[BoxeRZ]

Originally Posted by Hix

Long story short I slept with his daughter at a party...

I've found this to be the best way to win an arguement, usually I go after their gf's, but daughter thats on another level!

[Hix]

Originally Posted by BoxeRZ

I've found this to be the best way to win an arguement, usually I go after their gf's, but daughter thats on another level!

If that's what you liked best I didn't tell the whole story. The daughter's mom was my math teacher; a real bitch. Oh, and it was her first time. I felt as though I won the matter, and isn't that all that really matters?

[engee]

*sigh.

Just finished my court appearance. Judge deducted my points down from 4 - 2 only and fined me as well.

Anyone knows if 2 points will increase your car insurance?

[QuikJ]

At least its just 2 points. I have case with my lawyer to prevent 8.