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Old 09-18-2017, 09:24 PM   #1
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Will this be patchable?

Hey what's up guys!

A month ago I installed new Michelin Pilot Super Sports and instantly loved them!...Well this morning I get inside my car and see the TPMS icon on my dashboard and I just assumed the cold temperature caused the tire to lose some air, but as I started to reverse I heard this loud screech. I get out and find the tire is fully flat.
I'm guessing I went over a nail yesterday afternoon as this was the last time I drove yesterday, and the tire was totally flat just overnight.

I am actually surprised how easily the tire was punctured, I thought tires were suppose to be to really tough to create a leak.

I wanted to know if you guys think this hole will be patchable? This nail is pretty big so I wasn't sure if it will be possible for any shop or if there is a certain size puncture which a patch wont fix. Literally bought the tires just a month ago so I really not trying to buy another tire.

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Old 09-18-2017, 09:36 PM   #2
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Nailed it! Also that's a screw, not a nail but I digress.

If it's far away enough from the sidewall, it should be patchable.

Also, I'm going to do this to myself before @humfrz does...
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They will probably have to plug and patch that but it is totally repairable for street use.
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Old 09-18-2017, 10:32 PM   #4
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Yup. Those self-tapping screws will do a number. Good news is that's easily repaired by any reputable tire shop, and you'll be good as new.
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As long as you're in the tread, you're good for patching.
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Nailed it! Also that's a screw, not a nail but I digress.

If it's far away enough from the sidewall, it should be patchable.

Also, I'm going to do this to myself before @humfrz does...
DAMN!, we got us a hardware expert in ol Spuds ....... ....... oh, I see he already slapped himself .......

Yep, @dinfern22 like said, that would be repairable. Things stuck in a tire in or near the sidewall should not be patched.

I would suggest that you have the tire shop "patch" the hole ...... not just plug it (or both).


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Thanks guys! I was afraid I might have to buy another tire because the hole might've been too big to fix.

Are patches permanent, like once a tire has been patched does it go back to 100% again? Also is there a chance the patch might leak again overtime?
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You'll be fine. I always just plugged holes like those and never had any issues with leaks. A plug & patch would be 100%.
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You should be ok for the life of the tire. If it had been closer to the edge where the tread meets the sidewall you'd be out of luck (usually my poor luck when I managed to get stuff stuck in my tires in the past), but the center of the tire is usually very repairable. The only other concern you would have had would have been if the tire had gone flat, because that deforms and damages the belts under the carcass and makes the tire questionable even if it looks fine.

Edit: I apparently missed the line where said the tire went flat in my first read through. That'd be my only real concern with the tire since it went flat. You didn't go driving miles on it flat, but it's still not good when a tire goes fully flat like that. You can run on it for a while, but I wouldn't go putting it though it's paces on a regular basis, and I'd replace it sooner than you normally would just to be on the safe side.

This is also why tires usually have warranties and flat replacement protection offered with your purchase. It's cheap insurance for this exact situation.
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You should be ok for the life of the tire. If it had been closer to the edge where the tread meets the sidewall you'd be out of luck (usually my poor luck when I managed to get stuff stuck in my tires in the past), but the center of the tire is usually very repairable. The only other concern you would have had would have been if the tire had gone flat, because that deforms and damages the belts under the carcass and makes the tire questionable even if it looks fine.

Edit: I apparently missed the line where said the tire went flat in my first read through. That'd be my only real concern with the tire since it went flat. You didn't go driving miles on it flat, but it's still not good when a tire goes fully flat like that. You can run on it for a while, but I wouldn't go putting it though it's paces on a regular basis, and I'd replace it sooner than you normally would just to be on the safe side.

This is also why tires usually have warranties and flat replacement protection offered with your purchase. It's cheap insurance for this exact situation.
Well, Overdrive, for average driving, I think that replacing the OP's tire, just because it went flat, would be being overly cautious.




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That is indeed what being on the safe side implies, yes. If it were me, even if I'd just bought the tire, if I intend to do anything beyond normal driving (not hard to get that urge with this car, right?) I wouldn't want to take a chance on the tire, but that's me and my two cents, and I don't think I went the "totaled" route and said he had to replace it right meow. I'd rather spend a few hundred dollars on a new tire (or a few tens on road hazard protection and get a new tire that way) than risk a worst case scenario that sees me lose the whole car, get hurt, hurt someone else, etc., because I took a chance on a tire. As I said in the part you emphasized, it's what I'd do.
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Just screw it in until it holds air.
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Just screw it in until it holds air.
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Just screw it in until it holds air.
10/10

Why even patch.
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