Lexus LFA breaks cover before Tokyo unveiling

[cyde01]

i like the look of the SLS better than the SLR

[Dimman]

Bump for horrible news...

It's a bit old, but new to me. And traumatizing. (Who's going to buy this when it's off-lease?)

http://kaizenfactor.wordpress.com/20...ent-lexus-lfa/

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by cyde01

my 2 cents concerning sub's posts.

some have said they aren't fanboys of certain brands, well i am. i've been toyota fan for a long time and have always had a strong appreciation for their approach to sports models (when they actually make them). i love toyota sports history and i love the LFA, and i feel so incredibly privileged to have been able to see and touch one in person. i think i've been posting around here long enough for people to know that i'm not a hater or a troll. that said

i can see why some enthusiasts say the LFA is overpriced. i don't agree with them, but i can understand why they say so. because some enthusiasts use performance numbers and brand prestige as the only values that matter in price. if that's all that matters, then yes the LFA is more expensive than one or two ferraris and lambos. but if the logo and numbers were all that mattered, then every sports car made would be a european mid-engined awd turbo.

OBVIOUSLY that's NOT all that matters because some people prefer front engine cars compared to rear mid-engine. and some people prefer FR to AWD, and some prefer n/a to boost. that's because there's MORE TO PERFORMANCE THAN NUMBERS. there are certain intangibles that can't be expressed in numbers. example: someone might buy a brand new miata for more $$ than a used S2000 because that's what they like. if you go by prestige and numbers only, the S2000 would be the obvious choice. but some people prefer the intangibles of a miata, like the fact that it's easy to control at the limit. i'm not knocking the s2k, i'm an s2k owner myself and love the car to death, but i can tell you from experience the s2k is NOT easy to control at the limit. even in my later model ap2 the snap oversteer is not easy to control. if all you cared about were power to weight ratio, skidpad and slalom specs or lap times you would never know such intangibles.

what i really appreciated as an enthusiast and fan in the article matador quoted was how special they thought the LFA was, more special than a 458, which has better numbers and is less expensive. when something is that special, that means that the intangibles of the car are at an unimaginably high level. the fact that it was so fast on the top gear track despite wet conditions and an FR layout also is a good indication of this, the "hands of buddha" or whatever that the designers talked about.

the GTR gives a whole lot of performance for the price. but is it special? does it have these intangibles? i hear it's an incredible car, but one of it's criticisms is that with the AWD system and auto gear box it's so easy to drive fast that it's almost boring. i don't think i'll ever hear a driver describe the LFA as boring. is the GTR an awesome car? yes. is it in the same league as an LFA? i think the answer is a resounding no.

the LFA is obviously not worth the cost to some and priceless to others. i think the travesty is that LFA critics tend to only look at the price tag and the performance numbers. but numbers will always only tell you half the story, there is a lot more that makes a car special. after all, isn't that why we're all interested in the FT-86?

Bolded parts: AE86 in a nutshell.

Unless you actually drive one, spiritedly, you will never truly understand the reason behind its popularity, and cult status. Its not faster than most current econoboxes in a straight line, its extremely unforgiving at its limit thanks to its solid rear axle and short wheel base, and the chassis is as loose as a Las Vegas prostitute, but damn....DAMN....DAMMMMN, is it fun to drive. There's no math behind the AE86 to convert numbers into fun. Its just how the car is. Damned fun to drive. I honestly can't give any other explanation to it.

I test drove my AE86 one day after spotting it in my old neighborhood and didn't look back. Everything to how it felt on the road, connected, to the 4A-GE, screaming at me to rev it more, etc.....I had to have it. I sold a SUPRA to own this car, and I would do it again.

[S2KtoFT86]

I'd still take one.

[alexmotrix]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Bolded parts: AE86 in a nutshell.

Unless you actually drive one, spiritedly, you will never truly understand the reason behind its popularity, and cult status. Its not faster than most current econoboxes in a straight line, its extremely unforgiving at its limit thanks to its solid rear axle and short wheel base, and the chassis is as loose as a Las Vegas prostitute, but damn....DAMN....DAMMMMN, is it fun to drive. There's no math behind the AE86 to convert numbers into fun. Its just how the car is. Damned fun to drive. I honestly can't give any other explanation to it.

I test drove my AE86 one day after spotting it in my old neighborhood and didn't look back. Everything to how it felt on the road, connected, to the 4A-GE, screaming at me to rev it more, etc.....I had to have it. I sold a SUPRA to own this car, and I would do it again.

so true, I personnally prefer to drive my rusted can AE86 sr5 converted to gts, than my girlfriends slightly moddded civic 1999 vtec, the AE86 make me feel alive, I've never driven a car that fun to drive, maybe it's the same about the LFA

[Dimman]

Yeah, I conceded to Matador a while ago on this. The bump was for the atrocity of giving one of these epic driving cars to Paris Hilton...

I thought Lexus/Toyota said they were going to try to get these to people that were actually going to drive them hard...

Sad.

[alexmotrix]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Yeah, I conceded to Matador a while ago on this. The bump was for the atrocity of giving one of these epic driving cars to Paris Hilton...

I thought Lexus/Toyota said they were going to try to get these to people that were actually going to drive them hard...

Sad.

she will drive it hard, in the wall.......

[C-Bone]

Ugh that's sickening ... Paris Hilton pshhh

[RWDJunkie]

The more I've thought about it, the more I like the LF-A now. At first I didn't like the car too much. I was one who didn't think it was worth the money. And to be completely honest, I still hate the front from certain angles, but it's such a nice piece of machinery. If I was in that kind of money, I'd seriously consider buying one.

Originally Posted by Dimman

Bump for horrible news...

It's a bit old, but new to me. And traumatizing. (Who's going to buy this when it's off-lease?)

http://kaizenfactor.wordpress.com/20...ent-lexus-lfa/

Double frick! 1) That poor, poor car. I shudder at the possibility of it ending up at West Coast Customs and matching her pink Bentley. And 2) *facepalm* I didn't know Paris Hilton had the same birthday as me. UGGGH!

[Toyota4Life]

If I had the money, I'd buy one tomorrow. It's just an awesome car. Too bad stupid spoiled whores have can buy one.

[Matador]

Technically her boyfriend bought it... but whatever. It's a lot of exposure for the brand, and the bitch does own a lot of high end cars. I could bitch about this, but at the end of the day, it wouldn't get me closer to owning one.

I heard at least 2 guys got the opportunity two get 2. A standard spec and a Nurburgring spec to track #greenmonsterisragingwithjealousy

[Siriusly.Andrew]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

#greenmonsterisragingwithjealousy

[aliphian]

If I had one I would be afraid to drive it. LOL.

I would just drive my "inexpensive" GTR.

[Matador]

And that's at the wheels people...