The BRZ/FRS/86 can pass cars like a motherF'er

[PetrolioBenzina]

Originally Posted by fierostetz

everybody says they don't care... but once you're on hwy 395 in california and the limit is 55 mph for 300 miles of dead straight road and theres a passing lane maybe every 20-30 miles... and the road is packed with semi trucks going 40-45mph... THEN passing becomes important lol

especially when the trucks speed up right before the passing lanes. I'll never understand that.... they know they're slow, but they don't want to be passed.

That happens here as well. Morons who cant do 55 on the two-lane and floor it when they get to the passing lanes. I've hit 90 or more a few times to get around these clowns. The whole f-ing point of this thread is that to do so in the straight-line-slow 86 is to plan ahead.

Not that hard to me, seems hard to others.

[fierostetz]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

That happens here as well. Morons who cant do 55 on the two-lane and floor it when they get to the passing lanes. I've hit 90 or more a few times to get around these clowns. The whole f-ing point of this thread is that to do so in the straight-line-slow 86 is to plan ahead.

Not that hard to me, seems hard to others.

I just mentioned it because I was JUST THERE AND ITS MIND NUMBINGLY INFURATING. I was in my Abarth though, it's strong in exactly the places the 86 is kinda weak so I can capitalize on those passing zones. The power bands are basically exactly opposite :P

[HachiRokuX]

I just drove by a Mclaren that was about to enter the highway. I almost turned around to see how well I could keep up/pass--if you're above 5000rpm in this car, anything is possible.


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[guybo]

Passing a car that lets you pass or doesn't care is easy in any car. But if you decide to pass a douchebag in an SS, it doesn't matter if you downshift or not- you ain't getting by. You learn the shortcomings of this car real quick if someone in even a mildly powerful car decides to teach you.

I pick my passing situations very carefully in this car because I've had people decide they don't want to be passed and create a very bad time for me. just remember- 2.0L NA is not much

[TorontoNat]

Originally Posted by HachiRokuX

What if we don't like mustangs, camaros, corvettes etc., love the 86 platform as a whole , but just want more power? What wrong with that? No one said it was necessary to have a SC to enjoy it but it would obviously make passing easier in certain situations. I normally have no issue passing at all but sometimes you find yourself in situations where cars with significantly more hp/torque give yoga a bit of trouble.

(Or you're a screw up at highway speeds like me and occasionally find yourself one gear too high to make passing easier)

You guys have been right from the beginning. Power is not everything and this car has more than enough for most city/highway driving, but more wouldn't hurt. Some people hate SC/turbos and don't even want to talk about it. Some people get SC/Turbos but miss the raw NA feel of this motor and take them off. And some people buy them, love them, and enjoy the extra power. I don't understand why it matters what camp your in, as long as you enjoy the car overall. I do, and I know many others do as well.

Idk why you would want to steer people away from the car just because they have minor gripes with it.


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It's true this car was made for modding and to each their own.

However, First you can't be passing fast cars on the highway.. specially in this car they WILL hit the gas and laugh at you (In the Corvette we can't afford, this wouldn't be a problem) and secondly.. the 200horses are part of the "platform as a whole" If you want more power, you like how the car looks at best...

I do understand fast is fun and also would definitely have a smile on my face in a turbo'ed FRS on a drag strip I'm sure but my point is that a turbo'ed FRS is no longer an FRS.. Its a slippery ass racecar that needs stickier/wider tires. Give it sticky tires and you have yourself a proper racecar for sure buttttttt same could be said about many other small RWD cars that have tight steering, good balance and a low center of gravity.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by guybo

Passing a car that lets you pass or doesn't care is easy in any car. But if you decide to pass a douchebag in an SS, it doesn't matter if you downshift or not- you ain't getting by. You learn the shortcomings of this car real quick if someone in even a mildly powerful car decides to teach you.

I pick my passing situations very carefully in this car because I've had people decide they don't want to be passed and create a very bad time for me. just remember- 2.0L NA is not much

I think what we have here is a difference in opinion as to what constitutes "passing".
As said many times if a more powerful car speeds up when you try to pass then it is no longer a passing situation it is now a race. You will lose the race to a very small percentage of the cars on the road.
I am not sure about everybody else's areas but I see about 1,000 2002 Tercels (or something like it) for every SS, GT, BMW, Vette, or insert your favorite "fast" car here. The majority of the cars on the highway are much slower than the 86 in all conditions so are not going to be able to stop you from passing.

[fierostetz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I think what we have here is a difference in opinion as to what constitutes "passing".
As said many times if a more powerful car speeds up when you try to pass then it is no longer a passing situation it is now a race. You will lose the race to a very small percentage of the cars on the road.
I am not sure about everybody else's areas but I see about 1,000 2002 Tercels (or something like it) for every SS, GT, BMW, Vette, or insert your favorite "fast" car here. The majority of the cars on the highway are much slower than the 86 in all conditions so are not going to be able to stop you from passing.

Demographics for sure. The BMW 328's are our area's Tercel's.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by fierostetz

Demographics for sure. The BMW 328's are our area's Tercel's.

Yes but not every car on the road is one. Also I have a hard time believing that every single other driver on the road accelerates every single time you try to pass. If both these are the case you should never ever have to pass anyway since you would always be way behind all the traffic as they all hit top speed trying to pass each other.

[Cal3000]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

EDIT:

Just to put an end to this asinine argument, here are the 60-80 mph times.

60-80 mph:

2013 FR-S manual: 4.4 s
2016 Civic EX CVT: 5.7 s
2017 Elantra auto: 5.9 s
2016 Mazda 3 auto: 5.9 s
2016 Corolla auto: 7.0 s

No matter what arbitrary endpoints you want to use, the FR-S is clearly faster (again provided you know how to properly downshift).

There you go. You are not getting around anything with those times.
This is where concept is lost relating to reality. The rate of change of speed is just not great enough. If your front wheel was at the other cars back wheel at 60mph, and if you both were accelerating at the same time, by the time you hit 80, your front wheels will probably be lined up with his front door handle. It will probably take you a whole 10-15 seconds to pass and you are well over 100 mph.

[TylerLieberman]

This has seriously become a 9 page thread of grown adults arguing over how to pass a vehicle on the highway, and if a particular car is even capable of doing so.

Drove my car cross country. Can confirm it does indeed pass cars. Did it by pressing the pedal that makes the car go. Nothing else needs to be said, except the OP is still a dumbass.

/thread

[Cal3000]

Originally Posted by fierostetz

everybody says they don't care... but once you're on hwy 395 in california and the limit is 55 mph for 300 miles of dead straight road and theres a passing lane maybe every 20-30 miles... and the road is packed with semi trucks going 40-45mph... THEN passing becomes important lol

especially when the trucks speed up right before the passing lanes. I'll never understand that.... they know they're slow, but they don't want to be passed.

This right here.

[Cal3000]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I think what we have here is a difference in opinion as to what constitutes "passing".
As said many times if a more powerful car speeds up when you try to pass then it is no longer a passing situation it is now a race. You will lose the race to a very small percentage of the cars on the road.
I am not sure about everybody else's areas but I see about 1,000 2002 Tercels (or something like it) for every SS, GT, BMW, Vette, or insert your favorite "fast" car here. The majority of the cars on the highway are much slower than the 86 in all conditions so are not going to be able to stop you from passing.

The main point here is that passing power is no different than an eco box. The majority of cars are in the same tier as a frs with the frs being slightly above average in that tier.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by guybo

I pick my passing situations very carefully in this car because I've had people decide they don't want to be passed and create a very bad time for me. just remember- 2.0L NA is not much

First world problems. Is it really so hard to just lift, put your blinker on and tuck back in behind them? Slow down a few mph, get better mpg, and let them go on ahead, you'll only be a minute or two later to your destination.

[stevesnj]

Prime example of needing to pass on the right. We even signal when we pass here in NJ. Not about being the fastest but being efficient and keeping a pace. In this case a gentle downshift to 5th works nicely. Not a race, just a pass.

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