Where do you guys buy parts?

[Clipdat]

Reported for personal attacks.

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

I have spelled this out in such detail that a 12 year old can understand it. Are you this fucking stupid?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

For the last time, Subaru doesn't make alternators or brakes, or sensors....they slap their logo onto it (and mark up the price)
I don't want sites that sell "Subaru" alternators, I want parts labelled with the company who actually made the part. (Denso, Aisin, Mitsubishi, etc)
You claim there are websites that do this? Please POST ONE or admit you have no idea what you're talking about.

I have spelled this out in such detail that a 12 year old can understand it.

The intelligent people here know what is what. I have nothing to prove to you. If you can't get past the fact that Subaru marked parts are not 300 to 400% more than the rest that is your issue not mine.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Clipdat

Reported for personal attacks.

You missed the good ones against Extra. Editing posts seems to be a habit.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

First, your example doesn't make any sense. You got it backwards.
I think you meant, buying a sports car then than putting 89 octane gas in it.

Sure whatever.

I'm not trying to put cheap brakes on my car. I am just using that part as an example.
I don't want Centric blanks. You're missing the point. I want to
1) know exactly who makes the OE rotor,
2) and then want to buy that exact brand rotor from someone other than a stealership.

It sounds like you're falling into your own trap. Rotors are rotors, if the metal is good and it's built to the right specs I really don't care which factory it came out of or which brand is on the box (because it probably came out of the same factory anyway regardless of which brand name you hold stock in).

I'm new to Japanese cars, but it shocks me that:
1) it's not common internet knowledge who makes part X (One thread, by one guy, is not what I mean, but it's a start)
2) You can't buy part X from all over the internet for 33% the cost of a dealership.

Guilty, I'll look it up when I need it, comparison shop, buy what I think is the best value. Just like anyone else who is competent, sorry there isn't a list to spoon feed you.

This is how it's done with German car ownership. For example, if I need an intake Cam Position Sensor, I everyone knows that Bosch makes it. Even parts websites that sell 5 brands will mark the Bosch as the OE supplier for that part. I then order a Bosch intake Cam Position Sensor from anyone but a stealership. Having to deal with a stealership makes me puke a little in my mouth.

To clarify, I don't put cheap generic AutoZone or Ebay junk on my cars. I only put OE brand parts on my cars.

Like I said, in the German car world, dealer parts are literally triple to quadruple the price just for the logo. You simply do not buy parts at the dealer. That's like the FIRST thing you learn on a car forum. You learn where to buy parts.
That is why the last place DIY enthusiasts buy from is a dealer. There are dozens and dozens of indep. European car parts websites that all sell exact OEM brands.

Wow sounds like it sucks to buy German parts as much as I've heard. As posted by Tcoat and numerous others Subaru and Toyota seem to markup their parts only about 25-50% at the most, not >300%, alternatively you'll save a lot by not worrying about which brand name is stamped on your consumable parts (partly because some OE stuff is not worth rebuying like brake pads and tires, partly because even the cheap stuff is adequate) but I have a hunch you may not own this car long enough to find out.

Hell I was buying Nissan parts for my old truck and the dealership actually had the best prices bar none beating out the cheap junk like RockAuto and Oreilleys and Ebay (if they even had the parts period).

It's not a volume thing. Niche? Subaru outsells brands like BMW, Porsche, and Audi. There are tons of Japanese cars made. Way more than German. Yet OEM German car parts are all over the internet. German cars are the niche, and Japanese cars are the mainstream. So, where are all the Japanese parts vendors??

lmao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...cle_production

In 2013 Subaru was 22nd, not high enough to make the list in 2014 or 2015.
By comparison BMW was 12th and Mercedes (Daimler) was 14th that year. VW autogroup which contains Porsche and Audi (and Lamborghini) and is currently the largest automaker in the world. Sure Subaru sells more cars than BMW, Audi, and Porsche in the US, but the Europeans sell much better in Europe and their parts bin and supplier list is much larger and more comprehensive than dinky little Subaru.

Hell there were over twice as many 911's sold last year than BRZ's.

Maybe this anomaly is specific to BRZ/FRS since these cars are so new, and maybe no one on this forum has ever replaced an alternator or cam position sensor yet. That would make sense. When these cars are 10-15 years old, I'd expect there to be a lot more outlets to buy parts, like you see with a BMW 3-series. You can order parts from literally dozens of online shops that are not dealerships.

omg some logic yay welcome to owning a new-ish car

But, if that were the case, then people driving 2003 Civics and Outbacks would have tons of places to buy parts. Not just Rock, Amazon, and dealersites. In fact, I'm going to look into that now. Where do these people buy their parts? I can't imagine a guy driving a 2003 Accord is buying his OE alternator, struts, cam sensors, fuel pumps, etc from a stealership. There should be hundreds of websites like "hondapartsforsale.com" run by

Most people buy cheap parts at that point, they aren't taking their car to the dealership and they aren't looking up Bosch or Denso part numbers.

Unless.....this is all a result of the way the Japanese structure their parts vendor agreements. Since Japanese cars are so insanely high volume, they might have exclusive contracts with their suppliers barring them from selling their parts independently (to forum guys like me). I can order Sachs struts, Lemforder control arms, Bosch alternators and MAFs, ATE brakes, VDO fuel pumps, Behr radiators anywhere, but I've never even heard of Nisshinbo brake pads, and have a feeling they are not for sale at 50 different websites, either.

lol thinking that any country operates their business differently than any others, welcome to the 21st century global economy where marketing has outsmarted all of us and they charge what they know people will pay

It seems Japanese cars have a totally different DIY culture. This is massive culture shock for me, so excuse me for that. I did not know buying parts from a dealer was even a thing.

It is when the dealership offers reliable parts for a reasonable price and there isn't an extensive list of alternatives built up yet. Edit: The car is also still new so you have people who are willing and able to pay an extra $5 for a spark plug from the dealer rather than spend half an hour researching comparison shopping and ordering online, and not people pinching pennies to maintain a car that is out of their league to maintain financially. (Just because a $80k depreciated down to $8k doesn't mean it doesn't still require the maintenance of an $80k car as I'm sure you're aware).

What did you have before? E36? That's one of the few cars where people actually look at prices for radiators before 150k lol

Oh and btw, spark plugs for this thing are ~$20/each

Have fun if you find time to drive your car between your posts and parts research.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Sure whatever.


It sounds like you're falling into your own trap. Rotors are rotors, if the metal is good and it's built to the right specs I really don't care which factory it came out of or which brand is on the box (because it probably came out of the same factory anyway regardless of which brand name you hold stock in).


Guilty, I'll look it up when I need it, comparison shop, buy what I think is the best value. Just like anyone else who is competent, sorry there isn't a list to spoon feed you.



Wow sounds like it sucks to buy German parts as much as I've heard. As posted by Tcoat and numerous others Subaru and Toyota seem to markup their parts only about 25-50% at the most, not >300%, alternatively you'll save a lot by not worrying about which brand name is stamped on your consumable parts (partly because some OE stuff is not worth rebuying like brake pads and tires, partly because even the cheap stuff is adequate) but I have a hunch you may not own this car long enough to find out.

Hell I was buying Nissan parts for my old truck and the dealership actually had the best prices bar none beating out the cheap junk like RockAuto and Oreilleys and Ebay (if they even had the parts period).


lmao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...cle_production

In 2013 Subaru was 22nd, not high enough to make the list in 2014 or 2015.
By comparison BMW was 12th and Mercedes (Daimler) was 14th that year. VW autogroup which contains Porsche and Audi (and Lamborghini) and is currently the largest automaker in the world. Sure Subaru sells more cars than BMW, Audi, and Porsche in the US, but the Europeans sell much better in Europe and their parts bin and supplier list is much larger and more comprehensive than dinky little Subaru.

Hell there were over twice as many 911's sold last year than BRZ's.


omg some logic yay welcome to owning a new-ish car



Most people buy cheap parts at that point, they aren't taking their car to the dealership and they aren't looking up Bosch or Denso part numbers.


lol thinking that any country operates their business differently than any others, welcome to the 21st century global economy where marketing has outsmarted all of us and they charge what they know people will pay



It is when the dealership offers reliable parts for a reasonable price and there isn't an extensive list of alternatives built up yet. Edit: The car is also still new so you have people who are willing and able to pay an extra $5 for a spark plug from the dealer rather than spend half an hour researching comparison shopping and ordering online, and not people pinching pennies to maintain a car that is out of their league to maintain financially. (Just because a $80k depreciated down to $8k doesn't mean it doesn't still require the maintenance of an $80k car as I'm sure you're aware).

What did you have before? E36? That's one of the few cars where people actually look at prices for radiators before 150k lol

Oh and btw, spark plugs for this thing are ~$20/each

Have fun if you find time to drive your car between your posts and parts research.

Fun fact. At 100K I have not yet replaced one single part in the car.
Since it is 98% highway miles such things as brakes and struts are still as good as new (figuratively speaking before anybody jumps on the phrase) and I don't anticipate any wear parts needing to be replaced for a long time yet. As far as major components go should I need to replace them I will indeed go with the best quality I can get. If that is an OEM "Subaru" branded part that is what I will buy. If I can get the same quality in a different brand, for a substantially lower price, then it will win out. As the car gets older the less I will be concerned about using OEM parts and the quality (and therefore price) that I am willing to use will drop. This is basic car stuff.

[LudwigMiles]

I love how just because you get bent over at the dealer, and enjoy it,
you have to mock people who know how to spend 5 mins looking up a part.

Rotors are rotors, but like everyone else, you miss the point.

I've owned them all, E39, E46, 911, A4, you name it.
Ordering car parts is a breeze,
and German parts are way cheaper than Japanese car parts,
when you're not captive to bend over at the "Genuine" stealership logo parts.

It's just a huge blind spot for Japanese car owners.
They either buy "Genuine" or AutoZone/Rock/Amazon.
There is no in between.

I'm aware that plugs are $20.
Just another way the factory bends their customers over.

$150 "Subaru" water pump?
$400 "Subaru fuel pump?
$400 "Subaru alternator?
LMFAO.
Literally triple the price of OEM German car parts.

[Slammillionaire]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

German parts are way cheaper than Japanese car parts,

On what planet?

[LudwigMiles]

Wow sounds like it sucks to buy German parts as much as I've heard. As posted by Tcoat and numerous others Subaru and Toyota seem to markup their parts only about 25-50% at the most, not >300%,

If you were paying attention, you'd know that the whole point is that you have NO IDEA what Mitsubishi alternators would cost on the retail market, b/c the option simply does not exist. That is the crux of this entire thread.


Hell I was buying Nissan parts for my old truck and the dealership actually had the best prices bar none beating out the cheap junk like RockAuto and Oreilleys and Ebay (if they even had the parts period).

Right, because see above. Getting bent over by the dealer and actually bragging about it. Unreal.

Most people buy cheap parts at that point, they aren't taking their car to the dealership and they aren't looking up Bosch or Denso part numbers.

They might, if the option existed

lol thinking that any country operates their business differently than any others, welcome to the 21st century global economy where marketing has outsmarted all of us and they charge what they know people will pay

Getting bent over and lubed, and being smug about it. Amazing

It is when the dealership offers reliable parts for a reasonable price and there isn't an extensive list of alternatives built up yet.

You do not know what a reasonable price is because you're in the echo chamber of Japanese price fixing. Alternator for $400? Fuel pump for $400? German car parts are a fraction of this. A fraction.

[LudwigMiles]

Originally Posted by Slammillionaire

On what planet?

Read the examples in this very thread, my brainwashed Japanese minion.

Name any part, and we can compare prices.

Want to start with spark plugs?
Radiators? Brakes? Water pumps? Struts?

Name any part, it's more expensive buying "Subaru" XYZ compared to OEM de-branded German part equivalent.

[Slammillionaire]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

You do not know what a reasonable price is because you're in the echo chamber of Japanese price fixing. Alternator for $400? Fuel pump for $400? German car parts are a fraction of this. A fraction.

Quick 2 minute search shows contemporary bmw and audi alternators at $600+

[Slammillionaire]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

Read the examples in this very thread, my brainwashed Japanese minion.

Name any part, and we can compare prices.

Want to start with spark plugs?
Radiators? Brakes? Water pumps? Struts?

Name any part, it's more expensive buying "Subaru" XYZ compared to OEM de-branded German part equivalent.

I guess i haven't read the thread enough, but you're comparing OEM subaru parts to third party german parts? How is there any equivalency there?

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Slammillionaire

I guess i haven't read the thread enough, but you're comparing OEM subaru parts to third party german parts? How is there any equivalency there?

Don't bother. Everything this guy posts is a lie.

[Slammillionaire]

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...BoCry4QAvD_BwE

https://www.bavauto.com/catalog/prod...xoCNX0QAvD_BwE

http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts/...ad=47433965052

Here's a selection of remanufactured german alternators for cars 1998-current that are over $400. The closest cheaper alternatives to these are ~$100-$150. I still don't see the argument this guy is trying to make.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Slammillionaire

I still don't see the argument this guy is trying to make.

That's because he's making it all up. It's all just a bunch of lies. Some people just get off on trolling, and today he has made this his playground. He probably yanks it every time he gets a response.