Where do you guys buy parts?

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Did you even read the link I posted way back in the thread? If you had you wouldn't keep babbling about who makes what. You want to see something neater? Click on the link I gave you and you totally ignored.

You can't possibly have given him a useful link. All the members of this board are stupid and lazy, remember?

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

This is how it's done with German car ownership.

There's your problem. Nobody here gives a flying fuck how it's done with German car ownership, even if anybody believed you.

And that's your problem, not ours. We all seem to be doing just fine paying three times as much as some imaginary supplier's prices.

If you actually have something to contribute, like a great place to buy inexpensive OEM parts, please do. Your bitching and whining because you're too lazy to do your own research and obviously didn't do any research before buying the car doesn't help anyone.

[LudwigMiles]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

even if anybody believed you.
as some imaginary supplier's prices.

Funny how the people getting raped by dealers are the most protective of them.
I can see why you're so angry and even resort to calling me a liar.
Stockholm Syndrome meets Cognitive Dissonance.

Here ya go.
Here are a few of the "make believe" vendors, you clueless child.

http://www.autohausaz.com/
https://www.fcpeuro.com/
https://www.ecstuning.com/
https://www.bavauto.com/

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

First, your example doesn't make any sense. You got it backwards.
I think you meant, buying a sports car then than putting 89 octane gas in it.

I'm not trying to put cheap brakes on my car. I am just using that part as an example.
I don't want Centric blanks. You're missing the point. I want to
1) know exactly who makes the OE rotor,
2) and then want to buy that exact brand rotor from someone other than a stealership.

I'm new to Japanese cars, but it shocks me that:
1) it's not common internet knowledge who makes part X (One thread, by one guy, is not what I mean, but it's a start)
2) You can't buy part X from all over the internet for 33% the cost of a dealership.

This is how it's done with German car ownership. For example, if I need an intake Cam Position Sensor, I everyone knows that Bosch makes it. Even parts websites that sell 5 brands will mark the Bosch as the OE supplier for that part. I then order a Bosch intake Cam Position Sensor from anyone but a stealership. Having to deal with a stealership makes me puke a little in my mouth.

To clarify, I don't put cheap generic AutoZone or Ebay junk on my cars. I only put OE brand parts on my cars.

Like I said, in the German car world, dealer parts are literally triple to quadruple the price just for the logo. You simply do not buy parts at the dealer. That's like the FIRST thing you learn on a car forum. You learn where to buy parts.
That is why the last place DIY enthusiasts buy from is a dealer. There are dozens and dozens of indep. European car parts websites that all sell exact OEM brands.

It's not a volume thing. Niche? Subaru outsells brands like BMW, Porsche, and Audi. There are tons of Japanese cars made. Way more than German. Yet OEM German car parts are all over the internet. German cars are the niche, and Japanese cars are the mainstream. So, where are all the Japanese parts vendors??

Maybe this anomaly is specific to BRZ/FRS since these cars are so new, and maybe no one on this forum has ever replaced an alternator or cam position sensor yet. That would make sense. When these cars are 10-15 years old, I'd expect there to be a lot more outlets to buy parts, like you see with a BMW 3-series. You can order parts from literally dozens of online shops that are not dealerships.

But, if that were the case, then people driving 2003 Civics and Outbacks would have tons of places to buy parts. Not just Rock, Amazon, and dealersites. In fact, I'm going to look into that now. Where do these people buy their parts? I can't imagine a guy driving a 2003 Accord is buying his OE alternator, struts, cam sensors, fuel pumps, etc from a stealership. There should be hundreds of websites like "hondapartsforsale.com" run by

Unless.....this is all a result of the way the Japanese structure their parts vendor agreements. Since Japanese cars are so insanely high volume, they might have exclusive contracts with their suppliers barring them from selling their parts independently (to forum guys like me). I can order Sachs struts, Lemforder control arms, Bosch alternators and MAFs, ATE brakes, VDO fuel pumps, Behr radiators anywhere, but I've never even heard of Nisshinbo brake pads, and have a feeling they are not for sale at 50 different websites, either.

It seems Japanese cars have a totally different DIY culture. This is massive culture shock for me, so excuse me for that. I did not know buying parts from a dealer was even a thing.

The one very comprehensive list of who makes what isn't enough for you? You want a dozen or hundred different threads? Aren't you the guy that complained that things were hard to find in this forum?


You want to buy the parts for 33% of what the dealer would charge but have you ever even priced a part at a dealer?


Have you totally ignored all the sites and links people have given you where you can buy discounted OEM Subaru parts?


Do BMW dealers not stock parts? Would they even bother if as you keep saying "nobody" buys from them?


You have really never heard of some of the largest parts manufacturers in the world? You have been in an iron curtain of Euro cars for that long?


Why the hell did you ask a question and then shit on everybody that answers?


Will you now complain that the forum is nothing but jerks when your future questions go unanswered (or worse get answered by people that don't have a clue what they are talking about)?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

Funny how the people getting raped by dealers are the most protective of them.
I can see why you're so angry and even resort to calling me a liar.
Stockholm Syndrome meets Cognitive Dissonance.

Here ya go, fucking idiot.
http://www.autohausaz.com/

OK so where are the dealer prices to compare?


How is this any different than the several places people told you to get Subaru parts?


Why do you never answer any of my questions?

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

Funny how the people getting raped by dealers are the most protective of them.
I can see why you're so angry and even resort to calling me a liar.
Stockholm Syndrome meets Cognitive Dissonance.

Here ya go.
Here are a few of the "make believe" vendors, you clueless child.

http://www.autohausaz.com/
https://www.fcpeuro.com/
https://www.ecstuning.com/
https://www.bavauto.com/

Here, let me repeat it louder so you understand:

NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT YOUR GODDAMNED GERMAN CARS, YOU FUCKING SHIT STAIN.

[LudwigMiles]

Those sites are independent vendors who sell OEM parts.
They are not dealers. Dealers are priced triple to quadruple.
The Subaru parts sites are all dealers.

Again, this may simply be a Japanese car thing.

[LudwigMiles]

It's not about German cars. I could be saying the same thing about Italian cars.
It's about vastly different supply chain logistics.

Getting Japanese parts from independent retailers seems to simply not exist.

It's natural to be enraged when someone opens your eyes to the lifetime of ass raping you've been enjoying.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

Those sites are independent vendors who sell OEM parts.
They are not dealers. Dealers are priced triple to quadruple.
The Subaru parts sites are all dealers.

Again, this may simply be a Japanese car thing.

Prove the price difference. You can't.


The Subaru sites are NOT dealers. There are probably 100 different independent sites.

[LudwigMiles]

You still miss the point.
They are still selling "Subaru Genuine" parts.
ALL of those parts will be marked up by Subaru.

The entire point, THE ENTIRE POINT, of this thread
is that in every other car forum, people cut out the dealership.

I don't want "Genuine Subaru" idler pulley. I want an Aisin pulley.
Do you see how I buy directly from Aisin -> Vendor -> Ludwig.
Do you see how Subaru is not in that chain?

"Genuine" -> Vendor -> Ludwig will cost you triple.
The dealership does not need to sell you the part in order for the car maker to mark up the parts with their logo.
Anything marked as "Genuine Subaru" will instantly have a 300% price markup.
That is the point, whether you understand it or not, that is how the parts business works.

You need price examples? Look at what I already posted.
$241 for a "Subaru genuine" radiator from that website (and even higher at the dealer)
$104 for a "Subaru genuine" water pump from that website. (and even more at the dealer)
For non-Japanese cars, for reference, you'd pay $50 for an OEM water pump and $100 for an OEM radiator. (And triple at the dealer)

But that supply chain simply does not seem to exist with Japanese parts.
Seems you can only get "Genuine" or 3rd party aftermarket, not OEM de-branded.

Just sayin'

[Tcoat]

Now let's look at Subaru dealer price against an independent site.


Hmmmmm not that big a difference. By using the logic applied here I should be able to find a $100 alternator. Ain't gonna happen.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

You still miss the point.
They are still selling "Subaru Genuine" parts.
ALL of those parts will be marked up by Subaru.

The entire point, THE ENTIRE POINT, of this thread
is that in every other car forum, people cut out the dealership.

I don't want "Genuine Subaru" idler pulley. I want an Aisin pulley.
Do you see how I buy directly from Aisin -> Vendor -> Ludwig.
Do you see how Subaru is not in that chain?

Anything marked as "Genuine Subaru" will instantly have a 300% price markup.
That is the point, whether you understand it or not, that is how the parts business works.
The dealership does not need to sell you the part in order for the car maker to mark up the parts with their logo.

You are never buying directly from the manufacturer. Never. All those sites you showed are middle men.


Subaru is not in the chain of many of the sites either. They just show the logo and the name the same as the sites you linked show BMW.




LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Yep I need you to tell me about the auto parts business and how it works.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

It's natural to be enraged when someone opens your eyes to the lifetime of ass raping you've been enjoying.

On the contrary, if someone comes in and says, "Hey, here's a way to get good quality parts for a lot cheaper," I'm all for it.

That's not what you've done. All you've done is insult people who answered your questions. You have contributed absolutely nothing but negativity. About all you can expect in return now is for people here to respond in kind.

I have a feeling you're used to that.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Yep I need you to tell me about the auto parts business and how it works.

Yeah, what the hell do you know about it?